[OneWingedShark]

I agree with the author’s supposition that abstaining from extra-marital sex would eliminate [virtually] ALL ‘date-rape;’ I also agree that “’no’ means ‘no’.” (But the opposite is also true, yes means yes, ok means ok, and so forth.)

My point is this, if some two people start having consenting sex and then one suddenly says ‘no’ then that does NOT make it non-consensual... at that point, whether or not the other stops is irrelevant to whether the act was consensual because IT WAS.

Just like a credit card means agreeing to an “I will pay at such and such date” buying things and then deciding that you don’t want them does NOT absolve you from having to pay for them. (Though there are stores and such with return policies that does not refute my argument.)

[Reddy]

ITA with you and the article. If a woman says “yes”, it’s yes. Otherwise, women can (and do) cry RAPE when they were totally consensual up to the very last moment. How is a man (or jury) supposed to know if “no” really was “no” after the fact???

[JenB987]

My point is this, if some two people start having consenting sex and then one suddenly says ‘no’ then that does NOT make it non-consensual... at that point, whether or not the other stops is irrelevant to whether the act was consensual because IT WAS.

Just like a credit card means agreeing to an “I will pay at such and such date” buying things and then deciding that you don’t want them does NOT absolve you from having to pay for them. (Though there are stores and such with return policies that does not refute my argument.)

So the woman has a change of heart and says "No, stop, I don't want to do this. Please get off of me" and the man continues to have sex with her, he's NOT raping her?

Riiiight. Sorry, but "Please get off of me" means "Please get off of me". Not "I'm not happy with this but go ahead anyway."

And to compare a woman who did not want to have sex and was eventually raped to a credit card purchase?