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Global Weirding Is Here
New York Times ^ | 2/17/10 | THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Posted on 02/17/2010 1:12:16 AM PST by ricks_place

Of the festivals of nonsense that periodically overtake American politics, surely the silliest is the argument that because Washington is having a particularly snowy winter it proves that climate change is a hoax and, therefore, we need not bother with all this girly-man stuff like renewable energy, solar panels and carbon taxes. Just drill, baby, drill.

When you see lawmakers like Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina tweeting that “it is going to keep snowing until Al Gore cries ‘uncle,’ ” or news that the grandchildren of Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma are building an igloo next to the Capitol with a big sign that says “Al Gore’s New Home,” you really wonder if we can have a serious discussion about the climate-energy issue anymore.

The climate-science community is not blameless. It knew it was up against formidable forces — from the oil and coal companies that finance the studies skeptical of climate change to conservatives who hate anything that will lead to more government regulations to the Chamber of Commerce that will resist any energy taxes. Therefore, climate experts can’t leave themselves vulnerable by citing non-peer-reviewed research or failing to respond to legitimate questions, some of which happened with both the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia and the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Although there remains a mountain of research from multiple institutions about the reality of climate change, the public has grown uneasy. What’s real? In my view, the climate-science community should convene its top experts — from places like NASA, America’s national laboratories, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Stanford, the California Institute of Technology and the U.K. Met Office Hadley Centre — and produce a simple 50-page report...

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barkingmoonbat; climategate; climategatedenier; globalwarming; globalwarmingscare; globalweirding; karlrove; pravdamedia; revisionisthistory; starkravingsocialism; thegreenmenace; weathermakingmachien
Scientists mated with the eco-activists creating "illegitimate science". The progeny cannot be trusted.
1 posted on 02/17/2010 1:12:16 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place
Friedman lives in a freakin' estate that has a carbon footprint that I will never approach.

He's an idiot.

I say drill, baby, drill.

2 posted on 02/17/2010 1:15:28 AM PST by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: ricks_place

True. And it will get worse. Al Gore is back.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2452149/posts

parsy,who is going to bed,now after shamelessly providing the above link.


3 posted on 02/17/2010 1:22:31 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: ricks_place

Why does anyone care what Friedman thinks? He studied Renaissance literature. It is evident that whether the weather gets warmer or colder, it will confirm Friedman’s nonscientific faith in AGW.


4 posted on 02/17/2010 1:31:16 AM PST by maro (One term is enough)
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To: ricks_place

You can’t help but wonder how the article would read if they had an extremely hot summer.


5 posted on 02/17/2010 1:32:08 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: ricks_place

The New York Times is still in business?


6 posted on 02/17/2010 1:32:22 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: lawnguy

Another moron who tries to dismiss skeptics as “funded by big oil” and pooh-poohs the rampant fraud in the data as “a few mistakes” by a “few researchers” while there is still a “mountain of evidence” for warming.

Is Friedman dishonest or just ignorant ? The “mountain” of warming data all uses the faulty foundation of temperature data provided by just four sources in the entire world. We now know thanks to the ClimateGate whistleblower that at least two of those four sources had their data deliberately tampered with by computer programs that bumped temperatures upward over time. This means that literally HALF of all the data — and ALL of the ground-temperature data — that all those “thousands” of other researchers used was fraudulent.

We have leading MGW scientists who claimed just last year that 2000-2009 was the warmest decade in centuries now admitting that there has been no warming since 1995 and there has actually been cooling since 2002. We have the IPCC admitting that they included wild claims about glacier melting and Amazon deforestation and African crop yields — claims they knew were ridiculous but included for “political impact”.

What will it take to break through the Warmists’ brainwashing ?


7 posted on 02/17/2010 1:32:36 AM PST by Kellis91789 (Democrat: Someone who supports killing children, but protests executing convicted murderers.)
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To: ricks_place
Those who favor taking action are saying: “Because the warming that humans are doing is irreversible and potentially catastrophic, let’s buy some insurance

Ah yes, the old Precautionary Principle. Let's take out an insurance policy with a $100 trillion premium to insure against a million dollar risk. It's all so logical.

People like Freidman have to just be crying in their beer. Just a short time ago he occupied the moral high ground. Now he's party to one of the biggest frauds in history. So you see him hedging is bets. Mildly chastising the most flagrant practitioners of the crime, while saying he fully understands whey somebody up against the evil forces they face would resort to fraud.

8 posted on 02/17/2010 1:33:28 AM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: ricks_place
“the climate-science community should convene its top experts — from places like NASA, America’s national laboratories, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Stanford, the California Institute of Technology and the U.K. Met Office Hadley Centre — and produce a simple 50-page report. They could call it “What We Know,” summarizing everything we already know about climate change in language that a sixth grader could understand, with unimpeachable peer-reviewed footnotes.”

How about a two sentence report.

There is no man made Global Warming science. All there is are trend models using falsified data.

It is interesting that Global Warming can now be said to cause anything. Snow in the east coast, no snow in Vancouver, drought in Australia. Any weather at all can be explained as being caused by global warming.

9 posted on 02/17/2010 1:33:45 AM PST by detective
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To: ricks_place
Nothing better serves their interests than to see Americans becoming confused about climate change

Unfortunately for you and the stupid books you write, Tommy boy, Americans are becoming less and less confused about "climate change" all the time.

10 posted on 02/17/2010 1:35:40 AM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: ricks_place

Friedman and Krugman should be persona au gratin around here. I guess it’s all about seeing what the opposition is doing.


11 posted on 02/17/2010 1:37:55 AM PST by Rastus
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To: Kellis91789
This means that literally HALF of all the data — and ALL of the ground-temperature data — that all those “thousands” of other researchers used was fraudulent.

It's all fruit from the same poison tree. All I'd dispute is your "HALF" claim. The more we read, the more it seems it's all the same. Whether it's temperature records, or some lame proxy, it's nearly all corrupted and skewed to produce the desired outcome by alarmists.

12 posted on 02/17/2010 1:40:11 AM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Kellis91789
Is Friedman dishonest or just ignorant ?

Those are not mutually exclusive possibilities.

13 posted on 02/17/2010 1:43:19 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: ricks_place; All
I guess Al Gore, the jerks at the NY Times didn't read Time magazine in the 1970s...

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Nor did they take a science class...

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14 posted on 02/17/2010 1:49:07 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: maro

Hey, watch it there; what’s anyone got against Renaissance literature? I studied it and now have a job working the parts counter at an autoparts store! So there!


15 posted on 02/17/2010 2:39:09 AM PST by glide625 (We wouldn't find ourselves ensnared by the Evil One if we weren't nibbling at his bait!)
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To: steelyourfaith

global warming ping


16 posted on 02/17/2010 3:05:10 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: ricks_place
...the fact that it has snowed like crazy in Washington — while it has rained at the Winter Olympics in Canada, while Australia is having a record 13-year drought....

What nonsense. Our drought is over. Matter of fact everyone on the eastern seaboard is praying for just one day of clear skies about now.

17 posted on 02/17/2010 3:05:23 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: Kellis91789
What will it take to break through the Warmists’ brainwashing ?

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't use reason to get into.

18 posted on 02/17/2010 3:09:04 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: ricks_place

Its time for mankind to evolve.

Like in an alternate flooded world we will have webbed feet and gills.

Now that global cooling is becoming the new weather pattern its time to grow fur.

The alpha females of the future will be those with the most body hair.


19 posted on 02/17/2010 3:10:52 AM PST by Eye of Unk ("Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists." ~~George W. Bush)
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To: Eye of Unk

20 posted on 02/17/2010 3:17:41 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: Fresh Wind

heh Heh he, I’m just betting there are wackos touting this as the future of sexual feminism, the evolved female through climatic change.

go hug a bear time?


21 posted on 02/17/2010 3:21:51 AM PST by Eye of Unk ("Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists." ~~George W. Bush)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Speaking of Global Weirding. While flipping through the channels last night I caught the last 5 minutes of a Star Trek TGN episode I’d never seen before. It was about warp drive hurting the fabric of space time. I could tell immediacy it was a lame evriopropaganda allegory. They decided to put a speed limit on ships to combat the problem. Obviously they dropped it later, possibly without even mentioning it again. LOL.


22 posted on 02/17/2010 3:50:45 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: All

Thomas Friedman is an “intellectual”. Thomas Sowell has a new book out titled “Intellectuals and Society”.

It explains Thomas Friedman perfectly. Both Friedman and Karl Marx were intellectuals, and while Sowell doesn’t mention Friedman (yet), he does mention Marx. Sowell holds up the work of Marx as a sterling example of what happens when intellect is combined with the wrong set of premises.

“Das Capital” is a brilliant work written by someone who actually studied economics, but it is build on a faulty foundation (In Marx’s case, that the only real wealth is found in the hands of those that labor, or the direct result of their labor)

Friedman is no dummy, but like Marx, he is simply wrong, and he writes book after book full of his ingenious mental machinations on the same faulty foundation. I read Friedman’s work “The World is Flat”, and that was it for me. After that, I tried reading two more, and I dropped both of them before finishing them.

Once you conclude that someone is building all of their arguments on the same faulty premises, you realize they are saying the same thing over and over again in different ways, but it is still wrong.


23 posted on 02/17/2010 4:02:09 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: ricks_place
Of the festivals of nonsense that periodically overtake American politics, surely the silliest is the argument that because Washington is having a particularly snowy winter it proves that climate change is a hoax and, therefore, we need not bother with all this girly-man stuff like renewable energy, solar panels and carbon taxes. Just drill, baby, drill.

Stupid progressive...the problem is, the AGW crowd claim the snow proves global warming. So either it's evidence or it's not evidence...and it's your side that says it is.

As for renewable energy and solar panels...nice straw man argument. Is AGW the only reason why they should exist...apparently so in NYT's view.

24 posted on 02/17/2010 4:04:25 AM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: reaganaut1; IrishCatholic; Carlucci; Desdemona; meyer; Para-Ord.45; Normandy; mmanager; ...
Thanx !

If there is one thing we have learned from the global warming alarmists it is that any anomaly, not just limited to weather, is claimed to be proof of Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ Anthropogenic Climate Change ™

 



Dr. John Brignell's WARMLIST
~A complete list of things caused by global warming.~

25 posted on 02/17/2010 4:05:45 AM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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To: maro

Really TF is one of those guys that makes you stop and say htf did he get to where he is? He’s a lot like Obama in that regard...they think that by running their CO2 dispensers 24/7 they can magically solve society’s ills....shouldn’t the EPA regulate them as dangerous emitters?


26 posted on 02/17/2010 4:30:02 AM PST by databoss
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To: highlander_UW
AGW crowd claim the snow proves global warming.

Concede temperatures will vary year to year according to the weather gods whim. However, new low temperature records are being set in record number which would not occur if global warming predictions were true let alone man made.

27 posted on 02/17/2010 4:54:34 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place
In my view, the climate-science community should convene its top experts — from places like NASA, America’s national laboratories, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Stanford, the California Institute of Technology and the U.K. Met Office Hadley Centre — and produce a simple 50-page report...

Good idea: "Professor Richard Lindzen of MIT’s peer reviewed work states “we now know that the effect of CO2 on temperature is small, we know why it is small, and we know that it is having very little effect on the climate.”"

28 posted on 02/17/2010 5:03:38 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1

One must wonder if there is, indeed, a “climate-science community.”

There is, for sure, a “climate FRaud/scam/Ponzi scheme community!”

After they are incarcerated and their ill-gotten gains forfeited, perhaps then we could get on with a serious climate science discussion?


29 posted on 02/17/2010 6:38:06 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Pollster1

I read portions of Dr. Lindzen’s paper after my previous comment.

I’ll add one more: Dr. Lindzen’s work is the silver stake in the heart to the AGW crowd’s werefolf!


30 posted on 02/17/2010 6:43:15 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Kellis91789
What will it take to break through the Warmists’ brainwashing ?

For far too many, "saving the erf" is their only way to "matter" in this world. It won't be easy. Probably the best way would be to give them another way to "matter".

31 posted on 02/17/2010 6:46:35 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ricks_place

A 50 page report!
Not 10 pages, not 100 pages but 50.


32 posted on 02/17/2010 7:12:38 AM PST by Mr. Peabody
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To: ricks_place

Climategate denier. He’s trying to get those straggling off the plantation back in line.

“These are the talking points”.

He ends his piece by saying even if the cause is overstated, with rising global populations, we will need increased sources of cheap energy anyway.


33 posted on 02/17/2010 11:46:11 AM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: Kellis91789

The New York Times won a Pulitzer Prize for denying the ills of Sovet Russia.

Same old same old song and dance at the NYet Times, comrade.


34 posted on 02/17/2010 11:48:51 AM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: a fool in paradise

Never having lived in NYC, and only encountering it after it went online, I have no memory of the NYT as anything other than a commie rag, although conservative friends of mine say it was better when they read it in the 80’s. Hard to believe.


35 posted on 02/17/2010 5:33:34 PM PST by Kellis91789 (Democrat: Someone who supports killing children, but protests executing convicted murderers.)
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To: Impy

If I’m not mistaken, that sounds like that was the final episode, wasn’t that where Picard joined the crew at a table to play a round of cards ?


36 posted on 02/18/2010 1:03:53 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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