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To: Brugmansian
"I had read Mount Vernon was devised to shut out social conservatives..."

Indeed, that's what I heard, and if true it's very off-putting. What initially attracted me (and I suspect many others) to conservativism is it's across-the-boards intellectual, moral and philosophical consistency starting with the sanctity of the individual and Natural Law instituted by his Creator for his benefit. That is the baseline from which everything follows, and to detach, exempt, ignore or excuse certain issues from that weltanschauung is somewhat disingenuous and actually undermines the very nature of conservativism.

19 posted on 02/17/2010 6:49:49 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
That is the baseline from which everything follows, and to detach, exempt, ignore or excuse certain issues from that weltanschauung is somewhat disingenuous and actually undermines the very nature of conservativism.

Surprising how many people do not understand that. Free enterprise works when it has a moral foundation. Without it we get Russia today and...well...what we saw with Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan and others here. I'm seeing defenses of GS helping Greece hide its debt and they all focus on "GS didn't do anything illegal, it went right to the line maybe, but ..." which misses the whole point. We are also seeing companies, Globe Crossings being Exhibit #A,which apparently broke no law but were created by bankers with the intention of shorting it into the basement and bankruptcy. This mentality has to be purged from the system. Re-structuring, passing more laws or beefing up enforcement won't do it. Those with no moral compass will always game the system. We'll never get rid of all of them but society needs to make those people pariahs, not super-stars.

Btw..remember where you read the Mt. Vernon statement was going to shut out social conservatives? I saw it last night and for the life of me, cannot remember where.

21 posted on 02/17/2010 7:00:16 AM PST by Brugmansian
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