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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“The Constitution give the government the power to suppress insurrections”

Insurrections, yes, States leaving, no.


189 posted on 02/17/2010 3:42:41 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad; Bubba Ho-Tep
“The Constitution give the government the power to suppress insurrections”

“Insurrections, yes, States leaving, no.”

James Madison - Discussed this very subject

“The use of force against a state would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment, and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound.”

Mr. Hamilton talked about this -

“It has been observed, to coerce the states is one of the maddest projects that was ever devised. A failure of compliance will never be confined to a single state. This being the case, can we suppose it wise to hazard a civil war?
“Suppose Massachusetts, or any large state, should refuse, and Congress should attempt to compel them, would they not have influence to procure assistance, especially from those states which are in the same situation as themselves? What picture does this idea present to our view? A complying state at war with a non-complying state; Congress marching the troops of one state into the bosom of another; this state collecting auxiliaries, and forming, perhaps, a majority against the federal head.

“Here is a nation at war with itself. Can any reasonable man be well disposed towards a government which makes war and carnage the only means of supporting itself — a government that can exist only by the sword? Every such war must involve the innocent with the guilty. This single consideration should be sufficient to dispose every peaceable citizen against such a government. But can we believe that one state will ever suffer itself to be used as an instrument of coercion? The thing is a dream; it is impossible.”

193 posted on 02/17/2010 4:04:21 PM PST by Idabilly
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To: CodeToad
Insurrections, yes, States leaving, no.

But what constitutes a legal secession? How many people do I have to get on my petition in order to declare myself and the others an independent nation? At what point can I get out my guns and start defending my self-defined borders? I really want that Army base up the road. Can I take that and everything on it, too?

196 posted on 02/17/2010 4:12:35 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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