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We don't need no stinking leaders.
1 posted on 02/22/2010 12:22:55 AM PST by bogusname
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It's deep down in the grassroots in all 50 states – natural turf (not the Astro version) that has never been permeated or organized effectively by the conservative movement.

It's always been permeated. That is where conservatism came from. It was organized for Reagan and take-overs in 1946 and 1994.

2 posted on 02/22/2010 12:26:34 AM PST by Brugmansian
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one speaker suggest that the conservative movement had much to offer the tea-party movement.

I respectfully disagree.

Correct. The TP movement offers the “conservative” movement
a chance at redemption, a rejuvenation, a chance to
shrug off the clinging, cloying,sufficating remnants of liberal “bipartisanship”.


4 posted on 02/22/2010 12:33:38 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bogusname
At least in Boston they had tea and they had party (”Indian war party”).

Now, we got no tea and we got no party.

So what do we got?

We got people not happy with the direction the federal government is going. They got polls that show that percentage and people are taking the chance to show that in the street.

The Left will have a “protest” and the Right will have a “tea-party”.

Anything that develops out of a tea-party (like a revolution) will need to have its own definition.

7 posted on 02/22/2010 12:46:25 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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We don't need no stinking leaders.

Actually, it's to our advantage not to have a top-down leader driven organization.

The minute we adopt that organizational form, the left (reads drive-by media) will begin their all out assault of character assassination and thereby discredit the Tea Party by tying us to the leader and all of that leader's supposed problems.

In fact, the straw poll selecting Ron Paul as the leading conservative at CPAC was most likely engineered by leftist who voted for him in an effort to discredit the members of CPAC.

As it stands, the left has been somewhat foiled when discrediting Tea Party members and have resorted to calling senior citizens Nazis, and portraying them as violent because of their interest in health care at town hall meetings.

To borrow (and modify a little) a famous phrase from the 1948 movie, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, "We don't need no stinking leaders!"

When we dump McCain, we'll get their attention. Donate to JD Hayworth.

12 posted on 02/22/2010 1:35:05 AM PST by Texas Jack
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To: bogusname
Our system is basically broken, and in need of several fundamental changes.

What is needed, obviously and painfully, is a voters' bill of rights and the first item of such a bill HAS TO BE runoff elections or instant runoff elections for all public offices.

Nobody should ever fear to vote his first choice, at least on a first ballot, and nobody should ever hold any public office with less than 50% of the vote.

There should also be a None-Of-Above choice on all ballots for public office and if that choice ever wins, then the other candidates should be barred for life from holding any public office and the parties sponsoring them should be barred for at least ten years from sponsoring candidates for that particular office. The penalty for running dead wood for public offices should be severe.

Another item on such a voters' bill of rights should be something which would eliminate voting fraud for all time and if that means getting rid of the secret ballot or at least limiting it somehow or other, so be it, we're paying too high a price for it. Somehow or other it has to be possible to check up on votes when there are questions or evidence of fraud.

One last item on such a list would be a provision that when a president is impeached and removed, his VP goes out the door with him and the office is either vacant until the next election or an emergency election is held to fill the office for the remainder of the current term. Granted removing a president should be difficult but it should not be impossible and if we couldn't remove Slick, we'd not have been able to remove Hitler or Nero either.

What happened in 98/99 was that Trent Lott simply refused to hand the presidency over to Algor with a year to go on Slick's second term, for obvious reasons. The situation should not be possible.


But the most critical thing is runoff elections, for all public offices, everywhere. That would make it possible for a new party to rise up and replace one of the existing parties, should the existing party become disfunctional or antifunctional, as has been the case with the dems for the last 50 years.

14 posted on 02/22/2010 3:19:03 AM PST by wendy1946
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