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Obese passengers and airlines are on collision course
Seattle Times ^ | 02/22/10 | Josh Noel

Posted on 02/23/2010 7:41:06 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway

As Americans get larger and airplane space comes at a greater premium, it's not difficult to see where friction ensues. The issue was brought to light again Feb. 13, when movie director Kevin Smith was removed from a Southwest Airlines flight from Oakland to Burbank, Calif., for failing to fit comfortably into a seat. According to Southwest, Smith originally bought two tickets — "as he's been known to do when traveling on Southwest" (Smith disputed this on his Twitter account) — but decided to fly standby on an earlier flight. After the director received a seat, it was determined that "Mr. Smith needed more than one seat to complete his flight," and he was asked to leave the plane, the airline said. It offered him a $100 voucher for a future flight.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Are you also fat?


41 posted on 02/23/2010 8:38:26 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

Okay. Next time you fly, volunteer to sit next to a fat person and give the passenger about to be squished a chance to sit elsewhere.

We need more loving folks like you.

The gods bless you.


42 posted on 02/23/2010 8:45:56 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Are you also ugly?


43 posted on 02/23/2010 8:59:22 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I see plenty of obese people in historical photographs. People are not getting bigger so much as the seats have been shrinking to cram in more bodies. I will not fly any more, it is a horrible experience.


44 posted on 02/23/2010 9:00:08 AM PST by Pilated
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To: bendover10

Hey bendover10, I was going to welcome you to FR, but it looks like you had to bend over and are already ZOTTED.


45 posted on 02/23/2010 9:01:40 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Hey zero, It is NOT Bush's fault anymore.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

The most important factor on a plane, as far as fuel is concerned, is weight. The fact that airlines don’t already charge by the pound is insane. However, I know why they don’t. Women. The are so over-sensitive about their weight they wouldn’t stand for it. In a society that is built around catering to women, airlines could never do that.


46 posted on 02/23/2010 9:03:13 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Thanks for the personal attack. You prove my point, unfortunately.


47 posted on 02/23/2010 9:03:36 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“Obese passengers and airlines are on collision course”

If you are a fat ass (and I am) and you are so fat that the airline has to make special allowances for your fatness, that alone SHOULD BE humiliating, lose some weight, fat ass.

Reminds me of the fat lady that sued a movie theatre some years ago because they didn’t have special seats to fit her 400 + pound fat ass into.

It is not anyones’ fault but my own that I am fat.


48 posted on 02/23/2010 9:05:54 AM PST by Grunthor (The more people I meet, the more I love my dogs.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“that’s nothing, wait until the first one won’t fit into a TSA body scanner...”

First you strip ‘em nekkid, then butter up the hips, then throw a chocolate bar into the scanner....


49 posted on 02/23/2010 9:06:50 AM PST by Grunthor (The more people I meet, the more I love my dogs.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

These people need to realize that it’s not about THEM. It’s about the guy who has to sit next to them - for four hours.


50 posted on 02/23/2010 9:08:10 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: achilles2000
People aren’t fat because they are old; they are fat because they eat too much and move too little. I’m AARP age and work to stay fit. If they don’t want to be disciplined, don’t think that we need to be nice about rejecting their efforts to socialize the cost of their failure to manage their weight.


I love perfect people. They always know what is right because they is what they are.

Once you solve the "fat" problem what is your next project to use "social discipline on"?

Genetics plays a role in body type and the way human bodies develop as we get older. But enjoy your self righteous views, sooner or later those that wish to use "social discipline" to make our world perfect will find something you do they don't like.

One of the effects of a long life is your body has many aches and pains. Bless you if you are free from the pains of growing older but some do find it hard to walk, let alone run marathons. Lack of excercise is not always do to being lazy, but your heart is to sour and black to consider anything other than because you are perfect everyone else should be as well.

51 posted on 02/23/2010 9:09:38 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Magnatron

Excellent point!....If you can’t loose weight for yourself, loose it for the person sitting next to you for three hours.....you can do it!


52 posted on 02/23/2010 9:31:50 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Look, everyone is different, yes genetics play a part and blah, blah blah. However, when you make the FIRST excuse for being fat or a drunk or whatever, you only make the second and third excuse easier.

People are slightly overweight because of those factors, people are obese because they eat too much and don’t exercise on top of those factors. I know. My maternal grandfather was short, very fat and bald. I’m an inch or two taller, about 10-15 lbs over my optimum weight (185-190) and bald. If I didn’t exercise or watch what I ate, I would weigh the 260 he did when he died of a heart attack. I am built just like him. I do not allow that to be an excuse. THAT is a slippery slope I on which dare not tread. I am not perfect, but I don’t use that as an excuse either. Criticize people who have figured out how not to be fat if you want, enable yourself and others if you want, but it’s not a secret. It’s not always easy, but any idiot can figure it out. Burn more calories than you take in. End of story.


53 posted on 02/23/2010 9:41:59 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

You never answered my question:

Are you also fat?

You asked: “Are you also ugly?”

This has nothing to do with my looks (5’3” 105 lb.). It does have something to do with your looks. What is your height and weight?


54 posted on 02/23/2010 9:46:15 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Excuses, excuses. None of us can be perfect, but none of us has to be obese. Resorting to strawman arguments just shows you love your fork more than your health. But, to be clear, I don’t particularly care if someone chooses to be obese. The objection is to the rancid excuses and attempts to socialize the cost of overeating/underexercise. Reread the last two sentences, because they are the point. I wouldn’t bother with a thread like this but for the increasing tendency of the obese to pretend they are victims of evil discrimination and entitled to special benefits - like half of the airline seat I am paying for .


55 posted on 02/23/2010 9:49:14 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Let’s not confuse middle-aged spread with morbidly obese. Or do you routinely request seat changes so you can save someone else from having to scrunch against the bulkhead or the aisle armrest?

If the person in question routinely buys two tickets, he should have anticipated this problem and discussed it with the gate agent when requesting standby status. Yeah, perhaps SWA could have been more tactful but we weren’t there to judge.

the BOTTOM line is just too big.


56 posted on 02/23/2010 9:57:16 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Roll back Pelosi" Rush Limbaugh, 2/12/10)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Oh yes,....P.S.

That is before I gained a little weight when I weighed in at 97 lbs.


57 posted on 02/23/2010 10:41:35 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

If their hips are wider than an airline seat charge them double!

Lock all armrests down so they can’t slop over!


58 posted on 02/23/2010 10:44:10 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Ablesinner

“There is no need to make people embarrassed about it”

Why not!!

They had a choice not to become an eyesore!


59 posted on 02/23/2010 10:45:37 AM PST by dalereed
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“Hey I got news for you, as you get older you are going to gain weight.”

You’re full of crap!

I weigh 180 and my wife 110 and we are the same weight that we graduated from high school 55 years ago.

I went to my 50th high school reunion a few years ago and of the over 250 poeople there there wasn’t one that was obese and only a few that were 200#.

You’r being fat is your choice!


60 posted on 02/23/2010 10:53:17 AM PST by dalereed
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