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AZ-Sen. 2010: McCain will attend White House health summit (will Obamacare go bipartisan?)
The Washington Post ^ | 2010-01-23 | Shailagh Murray

Posted on 02/23/2010 2:47:33 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) announced the members of the Senate Republican delegation to Thursday's White House health-care summit, and the list includes Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

The Arizona Republican is not known as a health-care expert. But as the Republican presidential nominee in 2008, McCain offered a sweeping reform plan with some elements that overlap with the Obama proposal, and others that would have represented a radical departure from the current system.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhohealthcare; gophealthcare; healthcare; kneeling4zero; liberalfascism; mcbama; mccain; mccainmutiny; mccaintruthfile; mcinsane; mclamesrevenge; mclamesrinoparty; mcqueeg; mcstain; obamacare; rino; rinocare; tyranny
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But as the Republican presidential nominee in 2008, McCain offered a sweeping reform plan with some elements that overlap with the Obama proposal...


1 posted on 02/23/2010 2:47:33 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Ughh once again the Maverick RINO is going to “reach across the aisle” by bending over and taking whatever the Dems want to give.......


2 posted on 02/23/2010 2:50:03 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: lmarie373; Abundy; missanne; Victoria Delsoul; 50mm; stockpirate; Eaker; ducdriver; ChrisInAR; ...

3 posted on 02/23/2010 2:52:09 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Oh boy. Just what we need. Will McCain NEVER EVER just GO AWAY? He has virtually destroyed the Republican Party.


4 posted on 02/23/2010 2:52:10 PM PST by livius
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To: rabscuttle385

Every one of these asshats needs to be put out of office, every single one.


5 posted on 02/23/2010 2:53:08 PM PST by tx_eggman
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To: mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker

Check this out.


6 posted on 02/23/2010 2:53:48 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

SJB cleaning the vomit off his keyboard.........


7 posted on 02/23/2010 2:57:07 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: SE Mom; STARWISE; maggief; Liz; hoosiermama; jakerobins

Here’s the list of Senators going to Blair House.

- - - - - - - -

Mitch McConnell

John McCain

Tom Coburn (Okla.) & John Barrasso (Wyo.) both are physicians

Mike Enzi (Wyo.)

Charles Grassley (Iowa)

Jon Kyl (Ariz.)

Lamar Alexander (Tenn)


8 posted on 02/23/2010 2:57:12 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: onyx

Not a good list.


9 posted on 02/23/2010 2:58:57 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: onyx

Interesting...I haven’t read up on it- were all the senators invited? Or is this agreed upon ahead of time- we’ll send X from our side...you guys send X from your;s?


10 posted on 02/23/2010 2:58:59 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: rabscuttle385

it’s over. McCrap will do a flips across the aisle to sell the country out


11 posted on 02/23/2010 2:59:10 PM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: rabscuttle385
AZ-Sen. 2010: Vichy Republican and Obamunist collaborator McCain will attend White House health summit.

There. Fixed it.

12 posted on 02/23/2010 2:59:14 PM PST by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: rabscuttle385
Here comes the Calvary - John McCain to Obama’s rescue. Looks like the Republicans are preparing to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Glad they at least have a couple of doctors, but I don't know whether these doctors are fiscal conservatives or not, so I will hold the applause, and keep my powder dry.

13 posted on 02/23/2010 3:00:09 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Health Care Insuarance Reform is nothing more or less than a full frontal assault on liberty. McCain is a Progressive so that works for him.

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


14 posted on 02/23/2010 3:00:50 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I am only happy with the two doctors and “probably” Kyl.


15 posted on 02/23/2010 3:01:33 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: SE Mom

I’m not sure. Mitch likely selected. Grassley and Alexander are committee chairs. UGH.


16 posted on 02/23/2010 3:02:36 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: rabscuttle385

Watch the polls in Arizona after Thursday....


17 posted on 02/23/2010 3:04:41 PM PST by onona (dbada)
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To: rabscuttle385

I posted a while back that McCain was foaming at the bit, having to play conservative to get re-elected and not being able to reach across the aisle to his ole friends.

He just cannot stand not being the grand compromiser, the leader of the gang of bipartisan senators.

His showing up at this summit is about the same as his ceasing his campaign to rush back to Washington to help get the initial bailout accomplished.


18 posted on 02/23/2010 3:05:11 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: onyx

Kyl stabbed us in the back on amnesty.

He may be ok here. I still donm’t trust him.

The doctors are fine.

Where is DeMint?


19 posted on 02/23/2010 3:05:50 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: personalaccts

McCain will not give an inch — do you think he is dumb enough to give JD Hayworth a great issue to kill him with in the AZ primary?

The GOP senate list is fine. Coburn is exceptional and won’t take any crap from BO or any RAT at the table. Coburn knows every intracacy of this debate and will pummel anyone who dares to take him on. In fact, if McConnell is smart, he’ll make Coburn the point man. Being a medical doctor will resonate with the American public - especially seniors.

The best thing that every freeper can do is call your reps and senators — all of them — 202-224-3121 and Raise Hell about Obamacare. I informed my two RAT senators offices today that if they even go near using reconciliation, I will vote straight Republican in 2010 and 2012 — from Governor to dogcatcher. They got the message.


20 posted on 02/23/2010 3:06:40 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: onyx
These guys are idiots. Evidently they didn't read or don't believe Wes Pruden in the Washington Times today: Laying a Trap for the Republicans.
21 posted on 02/23/2010 3:08:22 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Looks to me like they shut him out.


22 posted on 02/23/2010 3:09:29 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: onyx

You read my mind, and if so, this does not bode well for us.


23 posted on 02/23/2010 3:10:37 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: rabscuttle385

NO DOCTORS (who are legislators) are invited! That should tell anyone all they need to know about this PHOTO OP!


24 posted on 02/23/2010 3:11:03 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Servant of the Cross

Nobody is that lame. If they play the fool, they are doing it on purpose.


25 posted on 02/23/2010 3:11:38 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I’m certain they know what it’s all about, but it remain to be seen what they’ll do.

I have my faith in the House guys. The fossil senators are worrisome.


26 posted on 02/23/2010 3:12:59 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: kcvl

I thought the article stated that 2 Republicans who are doctors were going?


27 posted on 02/23/2010 3:13:05 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: mwl8787

I agree with mwl’s assessment. Normally, McCain would be to the left of Obama. But, in primary season - with a threat from his right - McC is certain to be to the right of Rush Limbaugh!


28 posted on 02/23/2010 3:13:48 PM PST by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: onyx

At least they included BOTH of the Doctors in the Senate....Have we seen the House’s list yet?


29 posted on 02/23/2010 3:13:50 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: kcvl

Yes, kcvl.

Tom Coburn (Okla.) & John Barrasso (Wyo.) both are physicians.


30 posted on 02/23/2010 3:14:09 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: onyx

Good idea two physicians...I expect they’ll be double loaded too. Doesn’t seem to be any one with a really strong voice though? Maybe the intent will be to walk out at some juncture...this is going to be interesting.


31 posted on 02/23/2010 3:14:52 PM PST by caww
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Well, I think we can imagine who had a hand in omitting DeMint.
Maybe someone who didn’t get his endorsement?


32 posted on 02/23/2010 3:16:43 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: hoosiermama

The House list is not in this article.


33 posted on 02/23/2010 3:17:20 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: SE Mom

I thought the WH had announced previously which pubs were allowed.


34 posted on 02/23/2010 3:17:23 PM PST by libbylu ( Palin begins from Wasilla not only a campaign, an Iditarod of a crusade ....YEAH!)
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To: caww

Their are only two DRs in the Senate....but a fairly decent per centage of the House are Drs. That’s why I’m anxous to see the House list....IMO, The Drs in the House are better organized and more verbal.


35 posted on 02/23/2010 3:18:20 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: mwl8787

Good to know Coburn has a voice...and won’t take the bunk...McCain once again sticking his snotty nose in where he doesn’t belong.


36 posted on 02/23/2010 3:18:25 PM PST by caww
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To: onyx

HOLY CRAP!

Same old (”New GOP”) group of RINO’s.


37 posted on 02/23/2010 3:18:57 PM PST by maggief
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To: onyx

Is that a complete list???


38 posted on 02/23/2010 3:19:08 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I'm Ellie Light!)
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To: rabscuttle385

“McCain will attend White House health summit”

And try to figger out some way to get the POTUS everything he wants.


39 posted on 02/23/2010 3:20:25 PM PST by Grunthor (The more people I meet, the more I love my dogs.)
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“McCain will attend White House health summit”

Well, of course he will! Obama needs all the help he can get. Not surprising McConnell picked him. You won’t find McConnell EVER picking a conservative, like Inhofe from the senate, to represent us. McConnell is another one who should have been gone long ago and will help usher in amnesty.

“The Arizona Republican is not known as a health-care expert.”

That doesn’t stop him from introducing ridiculous legislation like this one:

McCain strikes another blow to freedom! Legislation alert!
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2010/02/mccain-strikes-another-blow-to-freedom.html


40 posted on 02/23/2010 3:20:36 PM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: caww

I think the strong voice ‘might’ have to fall to lawyer, Kyl, and I am somewhat heartened if it does, because the last time I saw him on Greta’s he was fired-up and completely unwilling to budge from “clean start,” so we shall see if Mitch allows him to state that same case.


41 posted on 02/23/2010 3:20:52 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: mwl8787

“McCain will not give an inch.....”
__________________________________________________________

I tend to agree that is what he will do. McLame is running very conservative now for the primary. I don’t see him giving anything but trouble for the dems now. It would be political suicide for McLame to be bi-partisan and give HusseinCare any life.


42 posted on 02/23/2010 3:20:56 PM PST by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: rabscuttle385
I expect mccain will be mislead
43 posted on 02/23/2010 3:22:06 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: onyx

Yep


44 posted on 02/23/2010 3:22:08 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Yes, complete list of the Senators, but the list does not include any of the House guys.


45 posted on 02/23/2010 3:22:18 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: maggief

The two doctors aren’t RINOs.

Coburn is one of my favorite’s.


46 posted on 02/23/2010 3:23:18 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: onyx

So, McConnell chose John McCain (who told us in 2008 that we didn’t have to fear Obama as President), one strong conservative (Dr. Coburn), and the rest not so much. These choices McConnell made in the face of a grassroots conservative resurgence in the country making clear that a conservative solution is what we demand. Way to read those tea leaves, Mitch.

Keep in mind that McCain ran his 2008 campaign as though Obama was a nice guy who was worthy to be elected President, but this year is treating his Republican opponent in the Arizona Senatorial campaign, J. D. Hayworth, as though he were an avowed Enemy of the United States.

Just a little perspective.


47 posted on 02/23/2010 3:23:34 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: caww
Foos for thought...hummm ....”Mr. Obama, like the rest of us, gives up his fantasies reluctantly, but trying to breathe life into the dead may be the president's strategy for sending it to the graveyard once and for all. He can placate his left wing with this one last attempt to put bureaucrats on loan from the post office in charge of health care, and when the attempt fails, he can grieve with the disappointed lefties, be done with it, and move on to other schemes”.....
48 posted on 02/23/2010 3:24:40 PM PST by caww
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To: onyx

No Paul Ryan. Too bad. McCain’s probably the one who bumped him.


49 posted on 02/23/2010 3:25:00 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I'm Ellie Light!)
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To: AuntB

“You won’t find McConnell EVER picking a conservative, like Inhofe from the senate, to represent us. McConnell is another one who should have been gone long ago and will help usher in amnesty.”

McConnell....hereinafter referred to as McFossil, is not even awake most of the time.


50 posted on 02/23/2010 3:25:18 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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