There's something on the other side of that wish that would make Mr. Jones wish he had never uttered the word - Revolution...
(I hate the Beatles)
Bring it!
Posted on 02/23/2010 7:06:50 PM PST by ETL
You must see this short video!
YouTube: "Valerie Jarrett, Senior Advisor to President Obama, speaks about Green Job Czar, Van Jones, at the Netroots Convention on August 12, 2009. Then Van Jones speaks about [a COMMUNIST] transforming [of] the whole society."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnDxzvc0OXk&feature=related
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From Conservapedia, with linked sources at the website:
"Van Jones first moved to San Francisco in the spring of 1992, while studying law at Yale, when the leftist Lawyers Committee for Human Rights hired several organizers to be on hand for the trial of policemen charged with beating Rodney King. Not guilty verdicts in the officer's case resulted in riots which left 55 dead.[9]
Although Jones had been working for the communist front organization STORM for one year, Jones and the truthout.org web site put forward a cover story that made it appear Jones experienced a jailhouse conversion to communism.
Like another Obama associate, Bernardine Dohrn, Jones is a lawyer, avowed communist, associated with communist front organizations, and arrested in the aftermath of a deadly riot. The truthout.org site gives this biographical information on Jones:
“I met all these young radical people of color - I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.'...I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary.... I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th. By August, I was a communist.[10]"
My apologies if you aren't interested in the truth. My fault for assuming you wouldn't want to be caught spreading BS.
Bring it.
Spreading BS? The SOB was arrested and spent time in jail, during the LA riots, no? He may not have been *convicted* and sent to prison, but he was arrested and put in jail during the LA riots.
Your sources are pretty heavy on the far-left side too. I don't know who contributed the specific quote you used above. I don't know who Adam and Trevor are.
Yes, during (well actually a week later) the L.A. riots, but in San Francisco.
"Jones was arrested during the L.A. riots and spent a short time in jail. "I met all these young radical people of color," he recalls, 'I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, "This is what I need to be a part of." I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary.'..."
By the late 1990s, Jones was a committed Marxist-Leninist-Maoist who viewed police officers as the arch-enemies of black people, and who loathed capitalism for allegedly exploiting nonwhite minorities worldwide. He became a leading member of Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), a now-defunct Bay Area Marxist-Maoist collective that was staffed by members of various local nonprofits, a number of whom had ties to the Ella Baker Center.
In the early 2000s, Jones and STORM were active in the anti-Iraq War demonstrations organized by International ANSWER, a front group for the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party. STORM also had ties to the South African Communist Party and it revered Amilcar Cabral, the late Marxist revolutionary leader (of Guinea-Bissau and the Cape Verde Islands) who lauded Lenin as "the greatest champion of the national liberation of the peoples." (In 2006 Van Jones would name his own newborn son "Cabral" -- in Amilcar Cabral's honor.)"
Much more on Van Jones here:
(also see linked articles in the column on the left)
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2406
In early May 1992, after the L.A. riots had ended, Jones was dispatched by LCCR Executive Director Eva Patterson to serve as a legal monitor at a nonviolent protest (against the Rodney King verdicts) in San Francisco. Local police, fearful that the event would devolve into violence, stopped the proceedings and arrested many of the participants, including all the legal monitors. Jones spent a short time in jail, and all charges against him were subsequently dropped.
"Trevor" is Trevor Loudon of NewZeal.blogspot.com, perhaps the best known and skilled commie researcher on the planet.
And I use far left and commie websites as sources only to show connections between various individuals and organizations. Not to listen to their BS about what happened anywhere. About 90% of what they say is BS. They haven't much choice BUT to lie and distort.
placemarker for later
I take it you’re not going to acknowledge that the info I got at “commie” websites is exactly the same as the info I posted in post #29 from your source in post #28?
OK, looks like DiscoverTheNetworks.org updated that part of the article. So I’ll have to update my excerpts for future postings. Thank you, and I apologize for not immediately trusting those websites you linked to, as at least one of them (TruthOut.org) apparently did make up things about the incident, saying he only became a communist during his jail time following the LA riots, when in fact he had been a leading member of STORM (Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement) for about 1 year prior. In any case, what is undisputed is pretty damning enough, isn’t it? Can we agree on that, or do you think Van Jones has been misunderstood?
No, you're right. Their source was the Huffington Post.
Problem is, I already know where the people on that site are coming from (DiscoverTheNetworks.org), but I wasn't 100% sure where you were yet. I haven't seen you around all that much to have a better idea. But I think I can trust you now! (i think)
There's something on the other side of that wish that would make Mr. Jones wish he had never uttered the word - Revolution...
Bring it!
From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"Throughout its history, one of RCP's [Revolutionary Communist Party] principal objectives has been to foment civil unrest in the United States. The most notable example of such efforts occurred on April 29, 1992, when RCP members looted and trashed the downtown and government districts of Los Angeles, triggering the infamous Rodney King riots. During the days immediately preceding the violence, RCP -- which maintained close ties to the L.A. gangs known as the Crips and the Bloods -- had circulated throughout South Central Los Angeles a leaflet featuring a statement by RCP National Spokesman Carl Dix, titled 'It's Right To Rebel' -- a quote popularized by Mao Zedong.
Encouraged by Dix, RCP activists helped lead the riots that would leave 58 people dead, more than 2,300 people injured, some 5,300 buildings burned, and $1 billion in property damaged or destroyed. On the ten-year anniversary of the rioting, RCP member Joseph Veale fondly recalled the violence as 'the most beautiful, the most heroic civil action in the history of the United States.'"
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6197
I only trusted what I found because the woman writing it was in an office of public trust which makes it riskier for her to make up whole cloth lies. Plus it was written reasonably (for the most part) and the info I was interested in could have been easily checked. If it had been and it was BS I feel sure I would have found the rebuttal on the net too.
Sometimes you have to go with your gut when you assess things and info is sparse. The other side, making it sound like he was arrested in L.A. in the riots and spent time in prison didn't have any specificity or sources.
Thanks again for acknowledging my efforts. Just want to help everyone have solid info to use in our fight against the stinking commies.
I didn't know I did that.
Sure you did! Don’t be so damn modest! :)
Have you seen this before...
The Lost John Lennon Interview
"Power to the People"
TA (interviewer): In a way you were even thinking about politics when you seemed to be knocking revolution?
JL (Lennon): Ah, sure, 'Revolution' . There were two versions of that song but the underground left only picked up on the one that said 'count me out'. The original version which ends up on the LP said 'count me in' too; I put in both because I wasn't sure. There was a third version that was just abstract, musique concrete, kind of loops and that, people screaming. I thought I was painting in sound a picture of revolution--but I made a mistake, you know. The mistake was that it was anti-revolution.
On the version released as a single I said 'when you talk about destruction you can count me out'. I didn't want to get killed. I didn't really know that much about the Maoists, but I just knew that they seemed to be so few and yet they painted themselves green and stood in front of the police waiting to get picked off. I just thought it was unsubtle, you know. I thought the original Communist revolutionaries coordinated themselves a bit better and didn't go around shouting about it. That was how I felt--I was really asking a question. As someone from the working class I was always interested in Russia and China and everything that related to the working class, even though I was playing the capitalist game.
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