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House votes to kill antitrust exemption for health insurers
CNN ^ | February 24, 2010 4:55 p.m. EST

Posted on 02/24/2010 2:43:28 PM PST by Former Military Chick

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To: Former Military Chick

Paper by D. T. Armentana written about 20 years ago, entitled ‘Should the McCarran Act be Repealed? Easily accessible on the web. Would he come to the same conclusion today? I don’t know. Basically he was saying that many times changes result in unintended consequences. My own comment, whatever the government touches usually turns out poorly.


61 posted on 02/24/2010 4:27:04 PM PST by mulligan
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To: GeronL

Why is this fascism? The Toyota thing I can understand.


62 posted on 02/24/2010 4:27:17 PM PST by pfflier
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To: pfflier
Why is this fascism? The Toyota thing I can understand.

Look at it this way: Attorneys General all over the U.S are now salivating over the thought of suing health care companies to fill the states coffers.

63 posted on 02/24/2010 4:34:02 PM PST by raybbr
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To: pfflier; DonaldC

So you actually think something this Administration and Democratic controlled Congress do is good?

Everything they do is aimed at creating bigger govt and more control.


64 posted on 02/24/2010 4:38:56 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Former Military Chick

If this is so, then perhaps when the government achieves its inevitable monopoly on health care, we’ll have a weapon to club it with.


65 posted on 02/24/2010 4:39:21 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("Did I give you carbolic acid? I'd love to.")
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To: raybbr
That's one way to look at it.

It could also mean that insurance providers may charge me less.

66 posted on 02/24/2010 4:40:26 PM PST by pfflier
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To: pfflier

Setting the stage. Taking more power for government.

We need an anti-trust bill for government.

They really want to put the health insurance companies into bad shape so the public cries out for a government solution.


67 posted on 02/24/2010 4:40:34 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: LowTaxesEqualProsperity

Where is the competition coming in?


68 posted on 02/24/2010 4:40:44 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

There was a lot of “bipartisan” support on this one.


69 posted on 02/24/2010 4:41:27 PM PST by pfflier
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To: pfflier

This is the part of the plan where thay create the crisis so they can swoop in with the solution and look like heros while they are really going to take away more of our rights and grab more power.


70 posted on 02/24/2010 4:41:39 PM PST by kaizen
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To: chilltherats

39% because of the pending requirements to cover pre-existing conditions.


71 posted on 02/24/2010 4:41:43 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Former Military Chick
OBAMANOMICS--TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

Sen Scott Brown's number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan

http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

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The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware.

72 posted on 02/24/2010 4:42:55 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: pfflier
It could also mean that insurance providers may charge me less.

I notice you use the the word "may". I kind of doubt it. They must be gearing up for lawsuits as we type.

73 posted on 02/24/2010 4:43:16 PM PST by raybbr
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To: kaizen
Makes some sense.

The scenario would be: The insurance companies balk at the deregulation and the feds come in and "compete" with them essentially delivering the same plan they have now. That would shift public opinion to favor a "government option".

74 posted on 02/24/2010 4:45:34 PM PST by pfflier
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To: raybbr

I don’t own a crystal ball but the laws of supply and demand say the prices should go down. The model of telephone company deregulation showed that would happen.


75 posted on 02/24/2010 4:47:34 PM PST by pfflier
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To: FreedomPoster
"People, this exemption is there so that companies can share actuarial data so that they can better compute rates. With out that data, actuarial uncertainty increases, therefore risk increases, therefore rates increase."

That makes more sense, at least to me, as to "why" the DemocRATS voted for it after all these years. They want rates to increase to further their government takeover goals. We have to get these destructive leftists out of office. Some how, some way....before it really is too late for America.

76 posted on 02/24/2010 4:48:27 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: DannyTN

I don’t know why they voted against it either, but those 19 names could serve as House manager’s for Barry’s impeachment trial in the United States Senate.

Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI) is a natural for the Hyde role of chief inquisitor for the prosecution.

However, in order to gain a conviction on an impeachment charge which has been legally filed in the United States Senate, the Republicans would have to run the table on the U.S. Senate in the November elections; that is, pickup all 18 potential U.S. Senate seats without any loss to the Democrats.

Assuming all 59 Republicans vote for conviction, if the ‘King Coal’ Democrats vote in favor of conviction along with Joe Lieberman, then Barry’s fanny is toast in the U.S. Senate. The House impeachment manager’s would have one vote to spare under this scenario.

They (meaning the sitting United States Senators)would all do it(convict the Kenyan Usurper) just to make history as the first time that the United States Senate was able to convict and remove a sitting U.S. President from the Chief Executive’s Office.

Do you believe in Miracles?


77 posted on 02/24/2010 5:03:40 PM PST by bigoil
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To: Former Military Chick

It’s a good move, but here’s the motive: Obama NEEDS to sign some kind of health care legislation. This bill, a minor common-sense fix that really everyone can agree on, is a good measure but will then get touted as Obama’s Great And Majestic Health Care Plan! Krauthammer has been predicting this. It’s a CYA move, but still, it’s a good reform.


78 posted on 02/24/2010 5:14:29 PM PST by ksm1
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To: Eroteme

Since Sensenbrenner and Ron Paul voted against it, it will cost us money.

What it does is allow the federal government to accuse the insurance companies of charging illegal prices (too little, and it’s illegal cut-throat competition, too much and it’s price-gouging, the same as everybody else, and it’s price-fixing).

What it does is make it illegal for different insurance companies to cooperate, and thus violates the First Amendment rights that the U.S. Supreme Court just returned to corporations.


79 posted on 02/24/2010 5:38:12 PM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2010.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
...which has been in place since the end of World War II. The 19 who voted against the repeal are Republicans.
And still no tort reform. All the bastards who voted for this should go to the gallows. Thanks Former Military Chick.
80 posted on 02/24/2010 5:53:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (February 23, 1945 -- Freedom is Priceless.)
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