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Cherokee man's lack of birth certificate turns into driver's license problem
WATE.com ^ | 02/25/2010 | WATE.com

Posted on 02/25/2010 2:46:29 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

ATHENS (WATE) -- There's a new federal ID requirement that says you have to produce a birth certificate when your driver's license expires.

A Native American named Aldea "Hawk" Silverhawk called 6 On Your Side to explain why he doesn't have a birth certificate and how difficult it is to prove where he was born.

Years ago, many Tennesseans were born at home and delivered by a midwife. In some cases, there's no record of the birth.

For those who fall under these circumstances, if you can show documentation of early schooling or your parent's birth, you can get what's called a delayed birth certificate.

6 On Your Side recently met Hawk and his wife, Loreen, at the Living Heritage Museum in Athens to learn more about his dilemma.

Hawk is a Cherokee who was delivered by a midwife in 1938. At age seven, he left the Tennessee mountains. He was sent west by himself where he attended a private boarding school on a reservation.

At 18, Hawk joined the Army which later gave him an honorable discharge.

He's driven big trucks for nearly 50 years, but his commercial Tennessee license expired three months ago and he can't get an error on it changed.

"Well all I'm trying to do is get the driver's license corrected," Hawk said.

His age on his Tennessee license is 60, as of last November." "My birthday, proven by the (family) Bible, is 22 August, 1938. But my driver's license says November 23, 1949. That's when they handed us papers on the reservation."

"When you deal with Native Americans, a lot of times there are no actual written records," Loreen said.

Hawk has no school records, no birth certificate and now there's the conflict with his age.

"The Tennessee driver's license that he has says he was born the 23rd of November, 1949. The problem with that is, it's incorrect. It was the date of issuance that he was given when they came out on the reservation," Loreen explained.

Loreen now drives the family car since Hawk's license has expired. The couple has tried to acquire a delayed birth certificate from the state, but their efforts have failed.

The office of vital records wrote a few months ago that research shows from 1937 through 1939, there's no record of Aldea Silverhawk's birth.

Hawk was recently sent a family Bible that shows proof of his birth. "Right here is the date of birth, August 22, 1938."

He said the Bible is from his mother's side of the family. There's reference to her birth, his older sister's birth and his birth.

"Thankfully this was kept by someone and sent to us," Loreen said.

Hawk hopes references from the Bible will be enough evidence for him to eventually acquire a delayed birth.

"I just want to get a birth certificate so I can bring my driver's license up to legal standards, as anyone else," Hawk said.

To obtain a delayed birth certificate, you fill out an application form at your county health department. The processing fee is $15. Then there's a search.

If no certificate is found, you can try to locate old school documents or a parent's birth certificate that shows date and place of birth. A marriage certificate can also be used to secure a delayed birth certificate.

Since Hawk can't produce any of these documents, as a last resort he's been asked to contact a special Social Security office in Maryland where his original application for a Social Security card is located.

That information, plus the record in his Bible, may be enough for him to get his delayed birth certificate.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: cherokee; immigration; indian; nativeamerican
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1 posted on 02/25/2010 2:46:29 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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why is that a problem?

Our own president didn’t have to prove he had one to hold the highest office in the land.

Any illegal alien crossing the border doesn’t have to have one to get a drivers license, register to vote, or get welfare...


2 posted on 02/25/2010 2:53:27 AM PST by television is just wrong
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There is no hell - nay, not even for lawyers - like the hell waiting for bureaucrats. Those absolute sinking vermin who cause such staggering amount of suffering, able to bring a planet to it’s knees and destroy the yearnings and achievements of a billion people across a thousand years with their dead crap brains in their dead crap regulations.

Satan waits with a steel fist for these crawling bastards to show up...


3 posted on 02/25/2010 2:55:22 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

He should run for president.
No birth certificate?...Hey, no problemo.


4 posted on 02/25/2010 2:56:04 AM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: AuntB; Liz

if you can show documentation of early schooling or your parent’s birth, you can get what’s called a delayed birth certificate.
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Illegal aliens aint gonna like this...


5 posted on 02/25/2010 3:01:25 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

They’re no doubt exempt!


6 posted on 02/25/2010 3:04:11 AM PST by A. Morgan (ZER0 is a BIG LIAR!)
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To: AlexW

“No birth certificate?...Hey, no problemo.”

hmm I don’t think he has enough experience


7 posted on 02/25/2010 3:08:03 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: Talisker

Without dutiful bureaucrats, men with typewriters “just doing their jobs,” Hitler and Stalin would have been nothing more than ranting nuts standing on soap boxes.


8 posted on 02/25/2010 3:15:02 AM PST by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; aculeus; dennisw; Yehuda; null and void
A Native American named Aldea "Hawk" Silverhawk called 6 On Your Side to explain why he doesn't have a birth certificate and how difficult it is to prove where he was born.


9 posted on 02/25/2010 3:19:46 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

He’s a Cherokee! Where the hell else do they think he would live?

Meanwhile we have a Kenyan Indonesian who doesn’t need a birth certificate to rebuild the Soviet Union in America.


10 posted on 02/25/2010 3:26:48 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Talisker

You need to save some of your anger for the stupid lawmakers and their staff that write these laws/regulations.


11 posted on 02/25/2010 3:37:32 AM PST by republicangel
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

If anything can possibly be screwed up the government will be happy to do it!


12 posted on 02/25/2010 3:38:50 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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There’s a new federal ID requirement that says you have to produce a birth certificate when your driver’s license expires.

I’m not sure how many people are aware of this, but it is causing serious problems when people go to renew their drivers license in the state of South Dakota.

If drivers licenses were required to be show at the polls, I can see something good out of this fiasco, but I’m betting someone didn’t see this coming in that respect, and this will fly right out the window if seen as a hinderance to acorn votes.


13 posted on 02/25/2010 4:06:29 AM PST by wita
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To: Talisker

The Devil will know his own


14 posted on 02/25/2010 4:09:35 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Joseph Heller couldn’t have made up something like this.


15 posted on 02/25/2010 4:21:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I’m 1/8 Cherokee.

We need a native American president.


16 posted on 02/25/2010 4:23:41 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
It is a minor pain getting a birth certificate when your children are not born in an institutional setting. My three children (ages 6, 4 and 2) were all born at home with the support of midwives (no thanks to the hostile but largely clueless medical establishment). It's been proved to be as safe as hospital birth for low-risk pregnancies.

In each case we had to jump through a few extra hoops to get a birth certificate issued, but once you show up at the office with newborn baby in tow and aren't evasive about anything and are decently insistent, it's gotten issued without much trouble.

17 posted on 02/25/2010 4:45:15 AM PST by Liberty1970 (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/lydiablievernicht)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

When does Obama’s license expire? As this is a federal law, he should have to produce it to renew.


18 posted on 02/25/2010 4:52:48 AM PST by NCjim ("You can't pick up a turd by the clean end", Bob Lonsberry on Obamacare)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I guess The Zero won’t be driving anymore...............


19 posted on 02/25/2010 5:27:43 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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Fyi,

I recently drove through the reservation town of Cherokee NC and saw an extremely large new construction project. The Harrah’s casino is tremendously increasing in size in the middle of a recession

This was certainly the reservation on which Mr Hawk was born


20 posted on 02/25/2010 5:39:17 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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