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J.D. Hayworth Publicly Throws Birthers Under the Bus; Accuses McCain of Distortion and Distraction
Associated Content (AC) ^ | February 27, 2010 | Marc Schenker

Posted on 02/27/2010 1:55:38 AM PST by Suvroc10

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To: Theodore R.

Doesn’t matter what I think.....is the process being followed to determine the original place of birth or not?

That’s the question. This is just a Slippery Slope


61 posted on 02/27/2010 4:32:16 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican
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To: Suvroc10

I don’t care if he was born on the White House steps; he’s STILL not a proven “natural-born U.S. Citizen” until the Citizenship of BOTH his natural parents is known and proven.


62 posted on 02/27/2010 4:34:41 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: ASA Vet
Please explain how knowing the hospital were Comrade Obama was born satisfies the Jus Sanguinis part of the requirements for being a Natural Born Citizen.

This is exactly where the issue gets turned around. The document that Barack Hussein Obama is refusing to release has something on it that will prove him to be a fraud. Don't know what it is but there is something on it. That is where the focus should be. Release that record - period. After that is released then we can talk about the NBC status.

63 posted on 02/27/2010 4:35:08 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: ASA Vet
Please explain how knowing the hospital were Comrade Obama was born satisfies the Jus Sanguinis part of the requirements for being a Natural Born Citizen.”

It provides 3 major points.

1. Where
2. When
3. By Whom

From this information everything else needed to prove or disprove ones eligibility can be gathered

64 posted on 02/27/2010 4:36:28 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican
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To: greenhornet68

I do recognize the black hole, and I’m extremely curious about zero’s background. The backgrounds and ideology of the people he surrounds himself with tell us broadly what that background is, but gives us nothing definitive and concrete to attack with. But that’s only one of several reasons why it isn’t the battle to fight at this time. Government takeovers of private industry, the clear and present danger of more industry takeovers, the raping by the global warming crowd, endless and limitless mega-spending, unemployment, the looming tax bills and lowered standard of living, loss of sovereignty, dependence on foreign resources, government picking winners and losers and doing all it can to “starve” and break red states, union takeovers, and the drive to look in on and control every aspect of our lives are much more serious than the “birth” issue. These are tangible threats - more than threats, really. They’re looming realities. At this point, pursuing the “birth” issue is not only a loser for us politically, it’s a luxury to be set aside for examination at a time when we are in a political position to be masterful in the pursuit, not look like a bunch of tinfoil-hatted whackjobs.


65 posted on 02/27/2010 4:37:05 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Suvroc10

The birther issue will not be a winner until late 2011—this is a reality we have to work with.


66 posted on 02/27/2010 4:37:16 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: traditional1
I don’t care if he was born on the White House steps; he’s STILL not a proven “natural-born U.S. Citizen” until the Citizenship of BOTH his natural parents is known and proven.

Thank you, the true voice of reason
67 posted on 02/27/2010 4:37:54 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican
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To: Suvroc10

The Birther issue is not a stupid issue to pursue if you are an average citizen. But if you are a politician it is just stupid to claim that Obama was not born in the USA. The MSM has unfortunately made it a litmus test of whether one is a fringe kook or not.

JD was smart to disavow the ‘birther meme’ and to instead focus on McCain and his record.


68 posted on 02/27/2010 4:38:22 AM PST by techno
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To: fr_freak

The point is that Hillary would have done her usual opposition research, employed her considerable resources she and Bubba put into place when they were in office, and destroyed zero with it in order to knock him out of the running. BTW, that’s also a trick he, himself, has used when running for office.


69 posted on 02/27/2010 4:40:16 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: techno
JD would have been smarter to add that while he believes that OB is a natural born citizen, born in Hawaii; he is still disappointed the the full details have not been released by the POTUS. Further more that they were not released upon request during the campaign.

This would have cleared him from the birth-er movement but not alienated himself from them either.

70 posted on 02/27/2010 4:42:42 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican
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To: Bushbacker1

It’s in the constitution, plain as day. This was discussed at length in connection with Arnold back in the day when he was still popular.


71 posted on 02/27/2010 4:43:02 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
Regarding your #3.
You're not willing to take Comrade Obama at his word when he said his dad was Barak Hussein Obama Sr, of Kenya?

When has Jr ever lied to you?

72 posted on 02/27/2010 4:43:20 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: olezip
The real story is the unprecedented lack of openness by our President in connection with his kindergarten records

And to think there are some people who still don't take the issue seriously.

73 posted on 02/27/2010 4:45:22 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Beckwith; butterdezillion; Danae; dennisw; exit82; mason-dixon; May31st; mcshot; patlin; ...

Ping. This is turning into a fairly entertaining thread.


74 posted on 02/27/2010 4:48:17 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: Suvroc10
It`s all politics! JD knows this is a losing issue. The MSM has been masterful at demonizing anybody that is open to the possibility, that Obama was born outside of US.

I believe it`s a legit issue, but its a loser politically. I might bring up the issue of his missing school records, and ask why Obama has lawyers fighting all this? What is there to hide.

I have read that Obama has/had lawyers fighting all these issues. If that is indeed the truth, then that could be a way to go?? People might wonder why he has lawyers fighting to keep school records private. I wonder if he has had them destroyed or even altered?

75 posted on 02/27/2010 4:48:45 AM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: chilltherats
Arizona resembles Massachusetts more and more.

LLS

76 posted on 02/27/2010 4:53:18 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: flash2368
We have a lot of them in D.C. gutless wonders who are afraid to ask the hard questions.

After he pushes the country over the cliff and fear and panic sets in, they'll start asking the hard questions. But it will be too late then.

77 posted on 02/27/2010 4:55:42 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Suvroc10

Let me just say one thing and that is, the ego maniacs, the other 0 (OReilly) and beck sit there and smear people who want the truth about BHO’s origins. They don’t have the balls to talk to anybody who is coherent on this issue no, they only speak to Taitz. I email the dopes all the time why they won’t speak to Berg or Joe Farah but they don’t answer. Farah used to be a guest on Foxnews all the time but no more.


78 posted on 02/27/2010 4:59:12 AM PST by rambo316 (Take Back America)
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To: chilltherats

Knock it off. You goaded this on with your post #9.


79 posted on 02/27/2010 4:59:35 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Suvroc10

I knew this would happen. Everyone is afraid to admit it, because they might have to do something about it. Talk about burying your head in the sand.


80 posted on 02/27/2010 5:00:04 AM PST by beckysueb (Scott Brown is a start. Lets keep it going.)
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