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1 posted on 02/28/2010 2:00:02 AM PST by Brugmansian
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Finally, one catches on. It only took nine years . . .
FDR worship is like heroin addiction.


2 posted on 02/28/2010 2:05:09 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Most university "science" amounts to squandering tax dollars in unoriginal ways.)
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3 posted on 02/28/2010 2:05:23 AM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: Brugmansian
For years I had been looking around and asking, "What the heck has happened to the Democratic Party that I grew up in?" My Democratic Party loved America, believed in the Constitution, free market values, and independent thought and actions.

No the Democratic Party has actually been rotten for the last 40 years at least. My mother made the switch over from Democratic to Republican in 1968 when she couldn't vote for Humphrey. She said at the time that the Democratic Party had changed for her.
4 posted on 02/28/2010 2:10:04 AM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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"How could I, a child of the sixties, a lifelong Democrat and a Jew be listening to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck?!"

Ping )))))

5 posted on 02/28/2010 2:19:02 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Brugmansian
"...current Democratic President of the United States came to his epiphany listening to Reverend Wright . . ."

If Juan McAmnesty discussed this relationship at every campaigns top or the lapdog media had reported MAO-bama's marxist/racist inspiration of 20+ years, the election would have been different.

But the marxist media and Juan were working for the rats.

10 posted on 02/28/2010 3:36:59 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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"A day does not go by when I do not do my humble part to prevent such a transformation [of American Jewry from liberals to conservatives] from coming to pass."

Jews and Evangelicals enjoy a wonderful alliance, one rooted in God, and His plans. What I have found over the years is that for many Jews, this is the equation they cemented have in their minds:

REPUBLICANS = EVANGELICALS + ANTI-SEMITES

Contrary to the writings of some some reporters and some Jews, Evangelical Christians do not solely support Israel because they are trying to hasten the Apocalypse, or hasten Christ's return. They believe that the prophesies in Isaiah, Daniel, and the Book of Revelation will happen, but there isn't anything they can do about it.

Still, the bond is strong between Jews and Christians in Israel (especially when weighed against the evil of Islam).

Christians who love God love the Jewish people people because God loves them. They are the "apple of His eye (Psalm 17)." To love the Jewish people and Israel is a direct manifestation of God's grace.

In political terms, what has happened is that many secular Jews (and nonsecular ones) have been taught to believe that Republicans are more than their "political" enemies, but theological, historical, and spiritual ones as well.

The conflict of the unbelieving Jews with that of Christ as Messiah is addressed in Romans 11.

It is historically correct and accurate that people, who either were Christians or said they were, brutalized the Jewish people. This is a huge factor to many Jews, who equate Christianity as a historic enemy. It is also true that many Jews equally hate (or display hatred of) Christianity.

This kind of manifestation of hatred is very small, however, and should not be compared to tragedies like the persecution of Jews throughout history, or the holocaust itself. Such comparisons are themselves vile, and trivialize the suffering of the Jewish people.

A very interesting, and tragic, topic is why so many Jews throughout history (and even today) were and are prominent Communists.


11 posted on 02/28/2010 3:37:51 AM PST by SkyPilot
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She makes an excellent point about Obama:

Ya know how the Dems dismiss anyone who “listens to Rush Limbaugh”? Or Glenn Beck. Or FOX.

Someone should respond:
“Obama listened to Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers for 20 years. Do you think they informed HIS political thinking?!”.


15 posted on 02/28/2010 3:57:57 AM PST by Timeout (Brits have the royals. Russia, the Nomenklatura. WE have our Privileged "Public Servant" class.)
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Thanks for posting.

I agree with the author. The Democrats today are nothing like those of past generations.

Just watch this November...when the “Reagan Democrats” make their voices heard. They’ve had enough of the current crowd.


18 posted on 02/28/2010 4:30:52 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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How any Jew could ever be a Democrat is beyond my ability to grasp.

All Jews need to go back and look at WWII to see what happens to liberals, and take it as a warning.


20 posted on 02/28/2010 5:11:37 AM PST by fuzzybutt
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There are plenty of us ex-Democrats (Jewish and otherwise) who are now conservative. :) We should all write a chapter for a book...


23 posted on 02/28/2010 5:28:10 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Brugmansian

Welcome home Candice, welcome home.


25 posted on 02/28/2010 5:34:58 AM PST by McGavin999
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From the article: “It began with 9/11 and progressed along bumpily until the Obama, Pelosi, Reid express train came roaring down the track. Putting the final nail in the coffin, so to speak, is our current foreign policy that abandons Israel, leaving it alone amidst a sea of savages and enablers that daily howl for its very destruction.”

I feel bad for Leon Weiseltier. He wrote probably the best piece I read after 9/11, eloquent and moving. TNR, at least at that time, had no way to email or archive their articles, but if anybody could find it it would be well worth your time to read.

Maybe Mr. Weiseltier should re-read his own writing.

I suppose he’s one of those foolish Jews who thinks Republicans will try to force him to convert to Christianity.

Obama is certainly a new low and may do a great deal to drive out the very few remaining Dem moderates from the party.


27 posted on 02/28/2010 5:49:28 AM PST by jocon307 (It's the spending, stupid.)
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My wife is Jewish and a conservative. I am Irish-Catholic and a conservative. The rest of our family, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces and nephews, grandmothers and grandfathers, OUR FOUR KIDS, ARE ALL LIBERAL OBAMA-LOVERS! . . .I forgot to add THE CAT to that list because he just lays around all day and expects us to coddle him and keep him fed. My question is:

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?

28 posted on 02/28/2010 6:13:54 AM PST by McBuff
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bump


30 posted on 02/28/2010 6:45:44 AM PST by Christian4Bush (Mike/Chris Wallace: Did you give in? Palin: "HELL NO!" 247 days til the midterms.)
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bttt


31 posted on 02/28/2010 6:49:03 AM PST by comps4spice
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Nice to see one person waking up. That is why it is so important that we never retreat into political strategy over the substance of our message which is a good one that is founded in the values and principles that built this strong nation. We can not and should not adopt social and fiscal liberalism to win others to our-side because if that is our tactic who is being won over? If we have faith in the truth of our message and our beliefs we should be happy to debate them and express them because they are superior.

The reason leftist radio doesn’t succeed is a prime example of why the message of the left is bankrupt. No one with any self respect wants to hear of adopt a message steeped in weakness, bitterness, and helplessness. They also don’t want to find themselves praising the efficacy of a federal government which has repeatedly proved itself incompetent, spend happy, and detached from reality. People may be naive but they are not stupid and that is why the debate is important. Once we refuse to debate we lose. The Democrats are losing for exactly that reason. They defend their ideas as if they are self evident when they most clearly are not.

This President Obama which Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will have down more damage to his party than even Bill Clinton and Hillary in 1994. What Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are driving is an ideological shift. They though incorrectly that Obama had down that with the election which was foolish. To the layman he didn’t campaign as a liberal, he campaigned as tax cutter, getting out of the war, and reform. No only has he not undone the excesses of the Bush Presidency he has double down on many of them and sent spending and government growth into the stratosphere.

We will see a lot more ideological conversions. The best thing to happen along with this is the Tea Party movement because it is driving independents to a place where they can be conservative. It is the big danger because where Obama and liberal excess is the impetus the Tea Party is the foundation of a lifelong identification with the founding principles of this nation which so many apolitical types have lacked.


32 posted on 02/28/2010 7:18:54 AM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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Good news, though one cannot help but wonder why someone who is opposed to abandoning Israel to savages wanted to do the same to South Vietnam in the Sixties. The two countries were very much in the same boat.


33 posted on 02/28/2010 7:22:14 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (LaYehudim haytah 'orah vesimchah; vesason viyqar.)
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A smooth transition from a culture of victims to Marxist screed camp folower, a rough contentious transition to being an American.


35 posted on 02/28/2010 7:59:14 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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A day does not go by when I do not do my humble part to prevent such a transformation [of American Jewry from liberals to conservatives] from coming to pass."

I don't see much danger of that period....maybe an epic cataclysm...probably not even then.

What we think is largely due to what we are and where we come from...I know PC folks hate that notion but I've lived long enough to see it over and over....I can usually tell on this forum who I'm dealing with on many issues just by their tone and stance.

I wish I had that Herzberg quote handy..."Jews are by innate tradition expected to question assumptions in the culture they always inhabit as a minority"

if true that makes conservatism unlikely ever..

though some...lol...ignore all that and follow empirical observation, logic and the God who created them..and I thank them for it

37 posted on 02/28/2010 10:28:30 AM PST by wardaddy (I'm waiting for Epic Beard Man the movie.)
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"When did it turn into the Party of "group think" and intolerance, of programmed talking points and mean spirited, vitriolic spokespersons such as Wanda Sykes and Janeane Garofalo?"

Good question. I can tell you exactly when it happened: Under Bill Clinton after the Monica Lewinsky affaire blew open (pardon the puns). The media and Democrat Party completed its turn toward totalitarianism with total GroupThink, DoubleSpeak and DoubleThink. With James Carville, the Forehead, Lanny Davis and the rest of the talking heads gang, the Democrats turned their backs on decency, honesty and other traditional values. It became 'do anything to win', because the Republicans and conservatives were so evil.

41 posted on 02/28/2010 11:01:54 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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