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200 Russian tanks found abandoned in forest
The Telegraph ^ | 2/28/2010 | Andrew Osborn in Moscow

Posted on 02/28/2010 7:50:56 PM PST by bruinbirdman

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To: lacrew
Googled it and found the story in the Russian press. . . . The UK story is misleading.

Well, that settles it. Now we know the truth.

yitbos

41 posted on 02/28/2010 9:45:14 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bruinbirdman

Are they listed on eBay? Or perhaps Craig list?


42 posted on 02/28/2010 9:56:00 PM PST by paudio (Are you better off today than in 2006, when the Democrats took over the Congress?)
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To: lacrew
I don’t know which tank might have a steering wheel

American tanks have had steering wheels since right after WWII(don't know about the M1, but would imagine they do also), maybe Russia kept the old joysticks but I would think they didn't. The PCs we had when I was in the military had the sticks, but every thing else had a steering wheel, or something that passed as one.

43 posted on 02/28/2010 10:26:27 PM PST by calex59
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To: lacrew

Some Russian machine guns use ammo belts which are not disintegrating link. I believe the PK series were used as coaxial guns on some of their tanks and use such belts.


44 posted on 03/01/2010 1:30:02 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: calex59

M1s use a handlebars and throttle setup, kind of like a motorcycle for steering.


45 posted on 03/01/2010 1:33:19 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: calex59
American tanks have had steering wheels since right after WWII.

The M-48 and M-60 series tanks had a steering T-bar.

46 posted on 03/01/2010 3:01:53 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: gura

For quality reasons I would take the M1 fleet. But if I don’t have an M1 fleet, then I would use what I have. A Bradley ambushed at close range by a T-34/85 is just as dead as one ambushed by a T-90 upgrade.


47 posted on 03/01/2010 3:08:05 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: mamelukesabre

I can understand your point of view, but I think you are ‘mirror imaging’ here. The careless use of troops is still endemic in the Russian army due to mediocre leadership and the fact that the bulk of their army is still made up of draftees. Also remember that the Russians are only partly westernized. They are still strongly influenced by the past (think Mongols) and although they lost 25-35,000,000 in WW II, THEY WON. This point is driven home to all officers in the Russian army. You don’t waste your soldiers needlessly, but you expend them when you need to.


48 posted on 03/01/2010 3:17:23 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: bruinbirdman
Col. Yurgi, we're missing 200 tanks.....

Uh, they're in the shop sir.....getting their oil changed.

49 posted on 03/01/2010 3:25:27 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My boomerang won't come back)
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To: bruinbirdman

“...and the keys to the tanks’ ignitions...”
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I have driven quite a few armored vehicles; none of which required ignition keys.
In battlefield conditions, you don’t want anyone wondering,
“Now, where did I put my tank keys?”


50 posted on 03/01/2010 4:07:47 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

The Russians have always been very spend thrift with their troops.


51 posted on 03/01/2010 4:07:50 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Hot Tabasco
They've been reassigned to indirect support for these guys:


52 posted on 03/01/2010 4:14:48 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: bruinbirdman

It wouldn’t be unreasonable to pre-deploy armored assets to various locations for future access in keeping with the defense strategy of the nation. Other than depot level fluids preservation, it might be better than prestaging in a logistical camp that is obvious.


53 posted on 03/01/2010 4:17:26 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: tacticalogic
If you mean gathering kindling, I take your meaning.

≤]B^)

54 posted on 03/01/2010 8:11:16 AM PST by Erasmus (Armageddon sentimental over you.)
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To: Erasmus
There's that.

You can also feed something more volatile than diesel fuel into the air intake. Usually it's ether, but I've also seen a gasoline soaked rag held up to the air intake, and I've heard of propane being used.

55 posted on 03/01/2010 8:17:56 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: hoosiermama
How easy to hot wire a tank?

Much easier than hot-wiring a helicopter, and I know how to do that.

56 posted on 03/01/2010 8:20:57 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Schrodinger's Hat - Simultaneously on your head and off.)
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To: CholeraJoe

bttt


57 posted on 03/01/2010 8:29:47 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: lacrew
I have never heard of ignition keys to tanks.

Imagine you are in the heat of battle and YOU LOST YOUR G.D. KEYS AGAIN!!!! "Mary!! Where did I put my TANK KEYS??!?!"

58 posted on 03/01/2010 8:36:03 AM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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To: tacticalogic

Met up with a couple of grizzled old prospectors on a mountain in Arizona once. Their diesel Land Rover was partly slid off the road, and they were having trouble starting it. They finally got it running with a can of ether spray. After that, my friend with the Bronco helped wich them back up onto the road.


59 posted on 03/01/2010 9:50:20 AM PST by Erasmus (Armageddon sentimental over you.)
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To: Lazamataz

With the latest designs, it’s probably “WHAT’S THE G— D—— PASSWORD????”


60 posted on 03/01/2010 9:51:57 AM PST by Erasmus (Armageddon sentimental over you.)
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