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Notre Dame Observer Rejects Rice Column on Catholic Teaching on Homosexuality
E-mail | 03-02-10 | Bill Dempsey

Posted on 03/02/2010 1:16:44 PM PST by mlizzy

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To: mlizzy

I’m not sure but I know somebody there I can ask.


21 posted on 03/02/2010 1:53:00 PM PST by Varda
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To: awake-n-angry
The entire thinking of our Founding Fathers was based on Judaeo-Christian moral thinking.

Until the late 1940s and 1950’s “separation of church and state” as a legal concept did not exist.

The Founding Fathers allowed the existence of state churches as their existence in no way contradicts the Bill of Rights. Even today Congress opens with a prayer and until fairly recently they were Judaeo-Christian ones exclusively. God is present on our currency and “In God We Trust” was one of our original mottoes.

Only recently was it thought by our increasingly leftist and atheistic courts that religious prayers at public schools, crosses on public property, creches on public property, the singing or Christmas hymns in schools, readings from the Bible in the same, etc, constituted an “establishment of religion”.

The Bill of Rights states in the First Amendment “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, nor interfere with the free exercise thereof”

The above clause clearly refers to an “establishment of religion” as meant at the time, i.e. a state religion. And, you will note, it says NOTHING about the states not having an established church as many of them did, particularly in New England which was the hot bed of the revolution and they were all Christian Churches.

Furthermore, the descend into madness of the Courts on this subject is exemplified by their total failure to recognize the second part of the above phrase by essentially siding with half-baked lunatic who comes along complaining about anything having to do with religious expression in the public venue.

22 posted on 03/02/2010 2:04:16 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: mlizzy

He said that there are the Observer (official), Rover (conservative independent) and a defunct liberal one called Common Sense.


23 posted on 03/02/2010 2:15:31 PM PST by Varda
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To: madprof98
The current issue of The Irish Rover points to factors suggesting The Observer's publication of the cartoon may have been designed to trigger support for the campaign to change University policy.

That issue is not on-line yet. What were the publication times between the cartoon and the outrage? I remember spotting the first outraged comment on Twitter. We might be able to track down how fast the news spread and whether there was prior notice given to activists.

24 posted on 03/02/2010 2:47:39 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://twitter.com/kevinjjones)
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To: Varda

Okay, my husband must have meant The Rover then. Thanks for checking. We’ve got our niece going to ND now, and she is very Catholic and enjoys the school for what Catholicism she receives from it; there is Sacred Heart (the Eucharist!), the Grotto and the Dome. And the US *needs* Notre Dame to convert back to full Catholicism. If ND goes secular, they’re going to have to move Mary. She will not go easily.


25 posted on 03/02/2010 4:10:07 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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Ah, here's the relevant issue (PDF). Suspicions about a planned subversion attempt are on p. 4.
26 posted on 03/03/2010 12:33:06 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://twitter.com/kevinjjones)
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Thanks for locating this. Frankly, I think ND has gone the way of Georgetown. I don’t see it as a Catholic school any more.


27 posted on 03/03/2010 12:42:59 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: MrChips; mlizzy
Oh Lord, Mr. Chips. This has nothing to do with Michelangelo and his artistic nudes. Your underlying assumption is apparently that Dr. Rice's thoughts are the product of cultural prudery or philistine ignorance --- but this is not the case.

Dr. Rice is civilized and sophisticated in every sense of the word. Moreover, it would be difficult to find anyone more respectful of all people whatever their points of view, more courteous in debate, or more loving and beloved by generations of students who were doubly privileged to learn from him as a teacher and to know him as a man.

So his writings, replete with Catholic wisdom, are now flicked aside by the student editor of the Notre Dame newspaper because he does not repeat the stuttering memes of the current set of cultural conformists. How pathetic this school has become.

Here's Dr. Rice's rejected article:

http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=35679

28 posted on 03/08/2010 8:10:50 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Do you mean now?" ---Yogi Berra, when asked "What time is it?" ---)
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Thanks, Mrs. Don-o, in sending this link:

Prof. Rice on Homosexual Activity: 'Right or Wrong?' What Notre Dame Would not Print

As usual, wonderful piece by Professor Rice. Notre Dame is looking worse and worse as the time ticks on ... they need so much prayer ...

Suffering Irish
29 posted on 03/08/2010 8:30:58 AM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy; Mrs. Don-o
These homosexuals uncouth? Links
30 posted on 03/08/2010 8:32:25 AM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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