Posted on 03/02/2010 3:40:50 PM PST by truthandlife
I hope you are right, but so far Pelosi has pushed through everything she tried to pass, including crap and trade and the porkulus.
True, but Pelosi couldn’t push through Obamacare without the Stupak-Pitts language that barred abortion funding. She didn’t have the votes then, and she has fewer votes now.
This is what the Dems seem to be planning:
1) Write a reconciliation bill based on the senate healthcare bill. This bill might add something like the Stupak amendment, although I don’t know how they could claim an abortion change would be budget related. It would also have bribes and other changes like taking out the cadillac tax.
2) “Explain” to the Dems in the house that this will “fix” the senate bill, and pass it in the house, and break the legs of reluctant donkeys. I don’t know if it will pass, but don’t underestimate the evil abilities of Pelosi. Dems could push it though with very few R votes.
3) Get 51 votes in the senate. Since the original senate bill is not approved in the house yet, I don’t see how the senate parliamentarian could even rule on objections to changes to the original bill, because theoretically a bill not yet passed in the house could be changed again in the bicameral conference. But Dems want Biden to overrule the senate parliamentarian on all “important” issues. Legislative sleaze in every sense of the word.
4) “Explain,” bribe, muscle, etc. again. Dems push it though with very few R votes. Since the reconciliation bill has passed both houses, and we expect it to contain enough changes to give stubborn donkeys an excuse to vote for it, the original senate bill would pass in the house.
5)Obama first signs the original senate bill, then the reconciliation bill.
If they were able to do all this, it would take a Constitutional amendment just to fix the process.
I think what you've outlined is very likely what will happen, if it happens. I don't think that they'll get any Republican support, whatsoever.
He's not talking to Republicans, he's talking to Independent voters trying to convince them that the Republicans are obstructionists and this is the only way to get anything done. I doubt the Independents are going to find such an argument compelling.
The Democrats are counting on a couple of things. First, even if the Republicans take back the House in 2010, they still won't have enough votes to "undo" Obama Pelosi Reid Agglomerated Health-Care as long as Obama is President. If the Republicans gain enough control in 2012 to "undo" Obama Pelosi Reid Agglomerated Health-Care they believe that their constituents will riot in the streets. They know Republicans can't buck the rioters without being called "racist" and they know Republicans fear being called "racist" more than anything. Consequently, if they pass Obama Pelosi Reid Agglomerated Health-Care now using the "nuclear option"; it will be permanent. Which brings up the question: Should we engage in "something" while they are using the "nuclear option" to take our freedom? |
Let’s see how it plays out over the next couple of days.
John
The Democrats look resigned to losing everything in 2010. They no longer care.
So what other methods can be brought to bear? How about massive civil disobedience?
shows how he was influenced by Alinsky: any means to achieve
the end result.
I don't have any choice! I'm watching.
;-)
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