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Song downloads may cost S.A. woman $40,000
San Antonio Express-News ^
| 03/04/2010
| Guillermo Contreras
Posted on 03/04/2010 7:59:16 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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Hoo boy. My kids used Kazaa to download songs. Glad I'm not facing a $40K lawsuit.
To: Responsibility2nd
Always turn off sharing and don’t leave the thing online for days on end.
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:01:53 AM PST
by
TSgt
(RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
To: Responsibility2nd
If I'm ever on such a jury the only thing I'll vote for is for the downloader to pay the then-current cost of the song plus a one cent punitive award for every song “illegally” down loaded.
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:02:21 AM PST
by
Gay State Conservative
(Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
To: Gay State Conservative
There really is a stupid tax
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:02:58 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: Responsibility2nd
Teenagers routinely get away with murder because they are “too young.” How is it they are automatically charged as an adult on this lesser crime?
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:03:09 AM PST
by
Ingtar
(Reckon the process will be silly - Reckonsilliation)
To: Responsibility2nd
Hoo boy. My kids used Kazaa to download songs. Glad I'm not facing a $40K lawsuit. I work for Crapital Records.What's your name again? ;-)
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:03:38 AM PST
by
Gay State Conservative
(Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
To: Responsibility2nd
Music industry continues to shoot self in foot.
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:04:42 AM PST
by
La Lydia
To: AppyPappy
I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone but a record company executive would vote for any $40K judgment in a trial.Or anything remotely resembling $40K.If the downloader was making any serious $$$ in doing so my attitude might be different but I wonder how often that happens.
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:06:56 AM PST
by
Gay State Conservative
(Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
To: Responsibility2nd
Jeez, it’s not like she stole something, after all.
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:07:17 AM PST
by
Wolfie
To: Responsibility2nd
"In 2008, U.S. District Judge Xavier Rodriguez found Harper infringed, but said it was up to a jury to decide whether the act was innocent whether she was truly aware that her acts constituted copyright infringement. If the infringement is found to be innocent, that can reduce the amount per song from $750 to $200." Thank GAWD our court system works so well, also I hope O.J. does someday find that killer!
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:07:17 AM PST
by
Mad Dawgg
(If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
To: Responsibility2nd
"In 2008, U.S. District Judge Xavier Rodriguez found Harper infringed, but said it was up to a jury to decide whether the act was innocent whether she was truly aware that her acts constituted copyright infringement. If the infringement is found to be innocent, that can reduce the amount per song from $750 to $200." Thank GAWD our court system works so well, also I hope O.J. does someday find that killer!
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:07:38 AM PST
by
Mad Dawgg
(If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
To: Gay State Conservative
"I cant for the life of me understand why anyone but a record company executive would vote for any $40K judgment in a trial.Or anything remotely resembling $40K.If the downloader was making any serious $$$ in doing so my attitude might be different but I wonder how often that happens." Its a great business plan if you think about it. All they need do is sue everybody and they automatically get 20,000% ROI for every successful lawsuit.
Someone cue the Guinness Beer Commercial guys...
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:12:35 AM PST
by
Mad Dawgg
(If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
To: antiRepublicrat; ShadowAce
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:14:17 AM PST
by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
To: Responsibility2nd
My kids were wise and told me they didn’t do Kazaa, but who knows, they may have when they were really young and just clicking around and don’t remember.
I think this is a horrid judgement. The songs cost .99 cents? How can one stop an innocent 14 year old from saying, I’ll download this and then I won’t have to ask mom for the credit card. I’m sure many are unaware it’s illegal.
To ask $700 for a .99 cent song to send a message to a bunch of kids whose only crime is listening to music, that is big time idiotic. I’ll bet kids that go out and steal CDs from cars don’t have that kind of restitution to pay.
Someone stole a box of CDs from my car once, maybe the court should award me 100K.
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:16:20 AM PST
by
I still care
(I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
To: Responsibility2nd
How about charging her the $0.99 per song if she had paid.
What is the deal with $250 per?
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:17:05 AM PST
by
svcw
(If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
To: Responsibility2nd
Good!
This women stole from me. I want an example made of her, and others.
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:17:21 AM PST
by
The Toll
To: Responsibility2nd
They need to collect the money so the bands can donate to Obama’s re election campaign.
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:21:50 AM PST
by
chuckles
To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...
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posted on
03/04/2010 8:22:15 AM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: Responsibility2nd
While the recording industry clearly has legitmate interest in keeping its recordings from being illegally downloaded, it seems to me that the punishment in these cases is far too severe to fit the crime.
If the kid had been caught shoplifting CDs of the same recordings, she’d probably get a slap on the wrist, been required to pay for or return the merchandise and received a small fine. Also, if someone steals 37 CDs they would likely be charged with a single count, not fined for each CD stolen.
What does a song cost on iTunes, about a dollar? So for “stealing” $40 worth of merchandise (in a manner that does not deprive the rightful owner of possession of said merchandise), she gets fined $40,000? This is insane!
To: Ingtar
Teens make a lot of stupid decisions!
However, if she was 14 when downloading any of them, doesn’t the TX Statute of Limitations apply from the date of download? I think that would be well past the “i’ll sue you” date...
Anyone know?
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