Skip to comments.Sources: Suspected Pentagon gunman was from Hollister
Posted on 03/05/2010 1:37:17 AM PST by highlander_UW
Sources: Suspected Pentagon gunman was from Hollister
Mar 4, 2010 By The Free Lance Staff
John Patrick Bedell's family has lived in Hollister for many years.
The 36-year-old man suspected in the Pentagon shooting today was from Hollister, local and media sources have confirmed. John Patrick Bedell was identified earlier today by the Associated Press as the suspected gunman. The AP also now has confirmed Bedell died of injuries sustained in the incident.
Local sources say he was the son of Kaye Bedell, the director of allied health at Gavilan College, and John Bedell, Sr., a financial planner in Hollister.
San Benito County Supervisor Reb Monaco, meanwhile, confirmed to the Free Lance he and his family have been "close" with the Bedells for "30-something years."
"I am just shocked by it," said Monaco, who had just heard about the local connection.
The District 4 supervisor said he has known Bedell since the suspected gunman was a "little kid" but he has not had contact with him in the past few years.
Monaco said the last he had heard, Bedell was going to school full time, but that was "several months ago."
Look back for more on the John Patrick Bedell story.
Below is the story from McClatchy-Tribune News:
An armed man apparently planning to enter the Pentagon walked impassively up to police officers guarding the doors of the massive building and opened fire early Thursday evening, wounding two officers before he was shot himself.
Multiple media sources have confirmed the man is from Hollister.
The gunfight took place just yards from the entrance to the giant defense installation as workers were still heading home for the evening, police said. Workers were ordered back to their offices and the building was locked down for a period of time, with no one allowed in or out.
"He walked up, very cool. He had no distress, no emotion in his face," said Richard S. Keevill, chief of the Pentagon Force Protection Agency, the civilian police agency that guards the five-sided building. "When he reached in his pocket, they assumed he was going to get his (building) pass out. He came out with a gun."
The gunman began firing, hitting the two officers, who then fired back at the shooter. Both officers were taken to George Washington University hospital for treatment of non-life threatening injuries. The gunman was listed in critical condition.
The area just outside the Pentagon is heavily trafficked by commuters, serving as a transit hub both for the Washington Metro railway system and many of the region's buses. The Metro station is one of the busiest in the Washington-area system, with thousands of commuters passing through, transferring from trains to buses.
The Metro entrance is just outside the doors of the Pentagon, meaning anyone can approach the building from the Metro. A force of officers guards the entrance during working hours and people who work inside must flash a badge before entering. Those without badges are ushered to a metal detector to be searched, then are escorted inside.
Officials did not identify the man or specify motives, although he was identified by the AP as 36-year-old John Patrick Bedell.
The Associated Press said investigators were considering the possibility that a second suspect was involved.
Officials refused to speculate on the gunman's motives. "We just do not have enough information on the suspect to make those determinations this evening," said Bryan G. Whitman, the Pentagon spokesman.
However, Whitman agreed with Keevill that the gunman was trying to get inside the building.
"He was obviously trying to gain entrance," said Whitman.
Police said no words were exchanged between the gunman and the officers before shots began flying, sending commuters screaming and scrambling for cover, witnesses told local television news stations.
Keevill said the officers were wearing protective vests. He said he could not say whether the gunman also was wearing a vest and would not describe the assailant's clothing. Keevill would not say whether the man was a Defense Department employee. Police said a third officer was involved in the incident, but did not say in what way.
In 2005, a Pentagon police officer, James M. Feltis III, became the only officer to die in the line of duty when he was struck by a stolen car driven by a man who was fleeing police. No Pentagon police officers were killed in the Sept. 11 attack on the Pentagon.
36 and attending college full time. On whose dime? Doesn’t sound like an established life. Wife? Children? Where does he live?
I was looking at some lefty blogs and some were, of course, trying to claim him as a tea partier, but others were citing wiki pages and various other sources and saying that he was a 9/11 truther anti-bush sort of guy. He was a medical marijuana grower and had some sort of fantasy about a weed backed dollar system or something according to another. But I can only offer those as rumors because no one was linking sources. Oh, and one person claimed to know him and said that he was a serious nutcase and didn't think it was political but he was far from being tea party...which suggested to me that he was liberal...but it does sounds like the guy was just flaming nuts from what most were posting.
is kinda silly seeing he is naked on a slab with multipal gunshot wounds (and deservedly so) assuming room temperature, the whole "suspected" is a moot point
‘On his Facebook page, since deleted, Bedell associated himself, among other things, with the Ludwig von Mises Insitute, Lew Rockwell, Shelly Roche (a self-described libertarian) and the [Linux]] operating system.’
If true, Lew Rockwell strikes again.
couldn't even venture a guess.....
Don't really care.
anyway I look at it, it is 6000 miles from here (as the crow flies) so it is not really hi on my want to know list.
So good luck with that, let me know how it works out for you and your quest to find Hollister
I agree with you that it's rather moot to try to avoid prejudicing a jury when he's already dead. We'll just have to hold the Holister site at fault there. Now perhaps they started their report prior to the report of his death and forgot to change the title...just a guess.
He lived for a time in Austin, Tx but it looks like he moved back in with Mommy and Daddy in CA.
I’m researching the Austin angle now and will try to get the info up ASAP. I’m literally falling asleep at the keyboard and need to call it a night soon.
We’re finding sites are scrubbing this guy quickly - anything we can find should be posted (following copyright laws of course) but also save copies.
I figure the media is waiting until his past is scrubbed beore they start lying about his past....
Northern California....About 60 miles south of the SF Bay Area.
His Wiki profile has been scrubbed but I got it posted onto FR before and have it saved, along with their admins “protecting” his page.
You can find the info on the scrubbing at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JPatrickBedell#Pentagon_Shootings
John Patrick Bedell died March 4, 2010 after allegedly opening fire on two police officers at the United States Pentagon. Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 08:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Ya know, I pointed this out before, but the Wikipedia editors kept deleting my comments. I smell a conspiracy. UNSIGNED COMMENT. Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 08:40, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
click on the history tab to see the admin protection.
His original profile was at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JPatrickBedell
you can read it in its entirity at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464379/posts?page=477#477
Jesse Ventura and his ‘conspiracy’ garbage show is what I am reminded of...
I did some research and Found his Manifesto from 2006 and his voice recordings about the government. He mentions Usurpations several times in his Manifesto so I presume Obama actually being a bonifide Usurper in the White House finally pushed him over the edge. Someone save these links.
John Patrick Bedell in his own words speaking:
Hello, and thank you for listening.
Justice is a universal desire of conscious individuals. In modern society, critically important organizations work to ensure that justice is established and preserved. Those individuals who work to uphold justice deserve our thanks, our gratitude, and our support. My purpose in this message is to support those who work for justice by addressing matters that any individual within our existing institutions of justice would find difficult or impossible to address.
The most basic principle of economic justice is the protection of private property and the protection of the right to freely exchange that property. Modern governments, however, consistently and routinely violate the rights of property owners with the assumption the incorrect assumption that government can utilize property more efficiently than its lawful owners can.
As institutionalized theft by property violation becomes increasingly routine and accepted, it has far-reaching consequences for the character and morality of society as a whole. The injustice of that permeates society and creates disrespect for the law. On the part of ruling elites, the perception is created that society is to be exploited for the benefit of the rulers. Incentives are created to generate and promote ignorance throughout society to conceal the injustice of that. As the institutionalized violence of government is used to violate the rights of individuals to keep and trade their own property, the violation of economic justice inevitably results in the undermining of justice in every other part of society.
Although the establishment of justice and order is a key responsibility of the United States government, the sheer size of the United States economy and the enormous wealth that is devoted to government, makes the United States government a tempting prize for any organization or collection of bandits ruthless and clever enough to seize it. A criminal organization able to conduct its activities from within the center of power of the United States government would have powerful advantages over other criminal groups.
Such an organization, having seized control of the United States government, would derive enormous power from the taxes extracted from the wealthiest society in the history of the world. Such an organization would be able to manage present objections to its corruption with lavish promises of future benefits in a form of generalized bribery. Such an organization, which would necessarily have great financial sophistication, would be able to use the credit of the United States government to issue trillions of dollars of debt to fund its corrupt activities and neutralize objections to its illegitimacy and in so doing, burden the responsible citizens among its victims with crushing financial obligations.
Very importantly, this criminal group could use its control of the United States monetary system to print money to advance its own purposes of theft, control and enslavement. Such an organization would be able to protect its shipments of illicit drugs into the United States while using the power of law enforcement organization to imprison their would-be competitors, and would subsequently be able to distribute those illicit drugs and launder the enormous profits in the huge and minutely-regulated financial markets of the United States. This criminal organization would use its powers to convert military, intelligence and law enforcement bureaucracies into instruments for political control and the domination and subjection of society while discrediting, destroying and murdering honest individuals within those services that work to root out corruption and faithfully serve their fellow citizens.
This organization, like so many murderous governments throughout history, would see the sacrifice of thousands of its citizens in an event such as the September 11th attacks, as a small cost in order to perpetuate its barbaric control. This collection of gangsters would find it in their interests to foment conflict and initiate wars throughout the world in order to divert attention from their misconduct and criminality. The true nature of such a regime would find its clearest expression in Satanic violence currently ongoing in Iraq.
Perhaps worst of all, such an organization would usurp and destroy the historical leadership of the United States toward human freedom and would, while constantly and loudly preaching the glory of liberty, work to lead the world into a new dark age of slavery and terror.
This seizure of the United States government by an international criminal conspiracy is a long-established reality. The murder of the United States President in 1963, the associated murders and institutional subversion, and the manipulation of official inquiries and public opinion was effected by individuals within organizational structures that play a central role in the United States government up to the present day. The coup regime founded with the murder of President John Kennedy utilizes a number of mechanisms to perpetuate its criminal rule.
The most important of these mechanisms is government control of the economy. Governments enormous tax revenues and even larger government spending give to the coup regime the means and motivation to sustain its rule. The constantly expanding regulation of business makes it possible for the coup regime to further impose its will on private economic activity and conditions the people under its rule to accept whatever totalitarian measures the regime deems necessary. The policies and actions of the coup regime are constantly masked by official deception, as well as the subversion of the free press through infiltration and secret manipulations.
On a deeper level, however, the deceit that the coup regime utilizes to justify its policies is intimately linked with the deceit that is inherent in policies that seize the property of individuals for the benefit of the politically powerful. The most subtle and dangerous of these policies, and therefore most similar rule of the coup regime itself, is the imposition of a paper monetary system throughout the United States. This far-reaching violation of property rights undermines the security of property in a way that works to the benefit of the politically powerful individuals that control the monetary system.
The political and military disasters such as the wars in Vietnam and Iraq that an illegitimate coup regime uses against the people who pay its bills are closely tied to the effects of inflationary paper monetary systems which are themselves intimately linked with financial and political disasters throughout history. The blatant violations of the constitution of limitations on the economic role of the government accomplished through many subtle usurpations over many decades are perhaps even more pernicious than, and are certainly a key motivation for, the violent seizure of the United States government.
In order to establish a firm and lasting basis for justice and sound government, the economic role of the government must be re-examined in every detail. It must be recognized that arguments for government control of the economy and government redistribution of economic resources are generally misguided or even shameless lies to advance enslavement and conceal theft and murder. Furthermore, it must, once again, be recognized that the most successful means to ensure justice, secure domestic tranquility, and promote prosperity is to ensure the protection of private property.
Thank you for listening
MSNBC MEMO: He was “Anti Government” AKA Tea Party Member.....
The Austin Plane small plane crasher was an anti-Bush democrat/marxist.
But the liberal mainstream media is using these stories and others to say these democrat terrorists are Conservatives/tea partiers.The media does this to say that Rush, Talk radio, the tea party movement , Sarah Palin , conservatives create these terrorists by “preaching hate” : but this is just all lies by the liberal mainstream media. The media does this mainly to blame Rush and talk radio saying that conservative talk radio is creating terrorists . The media does all this to silence talk radio or to get the fairness doctrine passed.
Liberals/Marxists/Democrats want more government so they want to destroy conservatives, talk radio, and Republicans because conservatives,Republican and talk radio are stopping democrats from growing the government as in how the Republicans have up to now stopped most of the Democrats big government/socialist agenda as in the Democrats government takeover of healthcare. . Liberals/democrats and the stupid liberal mainstream media are too stupid to realize government/socialism doesn't work and are always looking for government solutions to every perceived or manufactured problem such as healthcarehealth as if the thousands of government agencies now crippling the U.S. economy weren't enough.
Hey liberals and liberal mainstream media why are you for more government ? don't we have enough government.Don't you get it government/socialism doesn't work. Haven't you notice that no local, state, or federal government makes products like computers, cell phones, cars, pencils, cereal, etc? That's because government cannot create any products at all or even efficiently while only FOR PROFIT PRIVATE companies can create products and private for profit companies do create products that have value , that people need and they do it efficiently and with ever increasing productivity.
To create even a simple product like a pencil you need logging companies to get the wood, and then electric saw companies for tools for loggers, and rubber companies for the eraser, graphite mining companies and all the companies that in turn make all the technical equipment for those mining and logging and rubber companies and those that make the buildings and machines for those and so on. But no one planned this as the free market works from the ground up but democrats/marxists/liberals want us to think some liberal idiot at some government agency can plan an industry or economy and conceive that there is a product as a pencil needed and then conceive of that furthermore there are logging companies needed for the pencil and so on.Furthermore all this complex plan changes instantly in real time as every owner of every company is constantly changing and solving problems and government takes months of red tape to even approve of a single change.
So this is just a the tip of the iceberg why government/socialism can never work, must be kept out of the economy and all areas that it can be kept out of like a cancerous tumor must be kept out of a brain, a lung ,the human body.
But I guess liberals/democrats and the stupid liberal mainstream media are too stupid to realize government/socialism doesn't work and are always looking for government solutions to every perceived or manufactured problem such as healthcare as if the thousands of government agencies now crippling the U.S. economy weren't enough.
Pentagon on Lockdown After Officers Shot; Suspect in Custody...
Three People Shot at Metro Station...
highlander_UW in post 4 is doing some deep research on this:
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Today I compiled three major research lists:
THUG-O-CRAT hit list [shocking links and headlines]
Obama-nomics & Greece [link-list]
Close Encounters with the Loony Left [link-list]
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Recent updates here:
this guy is was a 9/11 truther like Obama’s good buddy Van Jones....that should say it all....none of these type are wanted in anyone’s Tea Party
Lefties need to start overturning rocks in their search for terrorists....9/11 truthers are proving to be domestic terrorists...
Bedell is, oops, was a 9/11 truther like Van Jones, the communist, Obama’s buddy....
Tea Partys would chew this guy up and spit him out...same as they would/will do to the likes of Van Jones.
Is this guy one of your truther friends?
The left is getting adept at scrubbing information...but not good enough. Just like the Nazis, the left sure is into revisionist history.
After a quick scan, looks like an anti-neocon “truther” kook — does that sum the scumbag up correctly?
Al Gore: “He betrayed this country! He played on our fears!”
That kind of wack-job?
That would make him a product of Al Gore. Ironically, Al Gore also inspired the Unibomber:
Gore Says Bush Betrayed the U.S. by Using 9/11 as a Reason for War ...
Feb 9, 2004 ... former Vice President Al Gore on Sunday accused the president of ... “He played on our fears. He took America on an ill-conceived ...
Local news this morning had a clip from his website that refered to “9/11 demolitions”.
I said “Oh, so he was a truther...but the nationla media will never tell you that.”
GMA tried pointing the “anti-government” finger towards the Tea Parties without actually saying it.
The guy in Texas was a Commie and this dude was truther...we don’t want them within 50 miles of our movement. These guys are radical leftists. Too bad the lame stream won’t acknowledge that.
This is bad for Keith Olberman... First Amy Bishop, then Joesph Stack...
After he loses this guy, how many viewers will he have left?
This entry from in his facebook page (since scrubbed) that was posted by FReeper Brytani:
"My desire for justice led me to violate what I think is one of the most unjust laws, cannabis prohibition, by growing 16 cannabis plants on my balcony in Irvine, CA from March 2006 to June 2006. I've posted the Orange County, CA District Attorney's complaint for this offense at http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/JPatrickBedell_2006-06-06_cannabis_felony_complaint ."Accordingly, the following two images appear to be related to Bedell. The 1st lists "J. Patrick Bedell" as author. The 2nd list "John Patrick Bedell" as defendant.
"One desired result of my effort is (will be) billions and billions of carefully cultivated, highly valuable cannabis plants growing throughout the United States with complete security of property. I have posted the image to the right in order to illustrate the use of cannabis as a monetary system..."
Neither pic is posted to be conclusive but to be leads for further inquiry. Was the "Felony Complaint" ever filed? Did Bodell post marijuana cult porn online?
I thought marijuana was supposed to “mellow you out”. These lefties really are angry, aren’t they?
That would probably make for a more stable currency than we have now. There is a subset of our economy that uses cigarettes as money, so this isn't too far-fetched (not that I'm condoning or endorsing this sort of thing, just pointing out facts).
What’s that saying about “mellows the good” “sours the...?”
Red dot marks the spot.
In Northern Cali Doc....by San Benito Cty. - Devil Doc BLT 3/5
I found this at Orange County Courts page. The felony charge was dismissed and he pled guilty to resisting arrest. Only served 5 days for that plus community service.
How incompetent must one be to ambush people with a total suprise attack, graze them and end up thoroughly dead.
Well it’s pretty obvious that he’s no Socialist or even a Leftie from his veneration of the concept of private property. He sounds more like a person opposed to government in all forms and flavors.
His Facebook page is also gone.
The article I read said he had a heavy addiction to pot.
Which corresponds to an article I read recently that said long term pot use leads to psychosis.
Which goes to the argument I made at the time, drugs are not a victimless crime, if people are allowed to deliberately make themselves crazy we all pay a price.
Because we don’t all live in our own personal universe.
Obviously, not enough pot.
Ah, this may help explain why he tried to take on the entire Pentagon.