Posted on 03/05/2010 4:39:29 PM PST by Kaslin
Did America ever go to war with the Independent Nation of Australia?
Well, there was at least one battle fought between American and Australian troops:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_brisbane
“That aside, the USS Winston Churchill is the only US Naval vessel named after a non-American person”
That and a couple of High Schools (one of which I attended). However Sir Winston was the son of an American so your statement is once again specious. Neville Chamberlain however was pure british, so you’re welcome for gift of some American spine in your apparently deficient gene pool.
Churchill’s mother was American, therefore Churchill was American? OK, so I suppose we Brits can claim for most of the great Americans, especially the early ones, on the grounds that they descended from the British?
2. The Falklands is something the Poms and the Argies should work out for themselves.
I respect VDH, but on this issue, it sounds as though not all of the members of the League of Empire Loyalists moved to Ontario after the Revolution.
Oh, hell, if there’s big oil there, throw the Britishers out, keep the Argentinians away, and take it over.
Did I say Winston Churchill was an America? No I did not. I said Churchill was the son of an American. Was his mother Jeannie Jerome not an American? Everyone knows who Winston's father was, but what is interesting is how close Winston was with his mother. The relationship of Winston Churchill and America is very special and multi layered and it was in no small part because of his mother.
With regards to great Americans being descendants of British citizens my Grandfather was born and raised in Brighton. Like most things of British origins like cricket and rugby we improve them to things like baseball and football.
Actually I believe the US declared war on Britain, but the point Im trying to make is that the declaration would have been involving “the united kingdom of England, Scotland, Ireland, and its colonies and protectorates”, which would have included Australia. If you are going to argue that Australia didnt fight the US because it didnt exist at the time, I could equally argue that Britain has never fought the US either, as “the united kingdom of England, Scotland
Ireland, and its colonies and protectorates” doesnt exist now either :)
Ah a common error. The USS Winston Churchill is NOT named after the famous Prime Minister, but after an American poet of the same name.
Anyway, I think its a bit of a moot point how much foreign sympathy assists any US candidate. On the one hand, as you say it can set a mood, but on the other, it could antagonise the voters. The identity, character and beliefs of the person who sits in the Oval office is of legitimate interest to everyone on this planet, due to the immense importance of the US, but the actual process of selecting that individual is the sole business of Americans
Sir Winston Churchill was a man who followed in the footsteps of his paternal ancestors, many of whom were also soldiers and politicians, like John Churchill, Duke of Malborough, Winston Churchill, the Civil War soldier and Statesman, and Lord Randolph Churchill, Sir WSC’s father, who was a senior politician in his own right during his day and whose career was also cast into the wilderness because of his own principles, but with the difference that unlike his son, his career never left the wilderness because there was no crisis like WWII to lift him out of it.
Even an American paternal cousin, one Sylvester Churchill (who bore an uncanny resemblence to Sir WSC) was a Journalist and Soldier who was a Brigadier-General during the American Civil War. Everything that we recognise that was great about Sir Winston Churchill was common to Churchill’s paternal line, whether it was as a soldier, statesman or writer. I know that this is a really stupid argument to be having, but I’m only saying it to refute the nonsense that you are trying to infer about Churchill’s greatness emininating from his American, maternal line. If this argument was to be taken in any way seriously, the evidence would point very much the other way...
Oh yeah, is that why nobody else outside the US ever plays them, whilst cricket and ACTUAL football (you know, that game you play with your feet?) have worldwide following?
I’m sorry, but you are wrong about that. The full name of the ship is the USS Winston S Churchill. The American novelist, Winston Churchill, had no middle name, and his contemporary namesake and fellow writer, who was the British statesman, suggested that he would sign his books with an ‘S’ to distinguish between the two.
And if it was named after and American novelist, why is a RN officer always stationed aboard the destroyer as a member of the crew? And why did Lady Soames, Sir WSC’s daughter help launch it when it was built?
I stand corrected.
Well it doesn’t really matter does it, seeing you guys can’t win at any of them.
I’ll take that as a parting shot from a retreating adversary...
LOL! Not hardly, it is game set match kinda like the America’s Cup. A cup named for the winners, taken from the losers.
Warmest Regards,
Boiler Plate
HK was on a 99 year lease. When it expired we gave it back.
Zimbabwe (or, Rhodesia as it was then) declared independance in the 1960’s and was left to rot. Which it certainly did.
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