Posted on 03/07/2010 9:39:36 AM PST by WellyP
Here is the origional post over at Citizen Wells:
68 comments so far.
Who can trace the IP of the origional “poster”
They would not have involved an outsider, when the fake could have been as easily fabricated with a $100 printer and photoshop
This is obviously an attempt to label freepers “birthers” and to discredit them at a later date.
I’m still leaning towards the dailyKOS guy that fabricated it as a joke, and it went viral. obama had no intention of releasing anything, and when the fake popped up, was forced to go along, because it suited his purpose.
How would I know?
I agree but if we can find out who posted the origional story, THAT is the story!
Perhaps the story was written to demonstrate how easily Obama’s
FactCheck COLB could have been created in the first place.
Has a judge ever seen or touched it, or has it only been in the hands
of FactCheck? I think only the FactCheck “reporters” were given the
copy, which was then returned to the Obama 2008 Campaign office in Chicago.
Has Hawaii ever claimed they sent Obama the birth certificate? I don’t think so.
I don’t follow this whole birther thing, but I don’t think the veracity of Obama’s
so-called birth certificate has ever been tested in Court either.
All very curious.
Good points
“I think only the FactCheck “reporters” were given the
copy, which was then returned to the Obama 2008 Campaign office in Chicago.”
IIRC they FactCheck people didn’t actually get to touch it. only take pics and only for 15 mins.
I remembered thinking at the time how could the media not think this was strange. to only show one outlet and for only 15 mins
Instead MSM reported it as matter of fact and proof of odumbo birth.
How stupid were so many people on 08?
Took a while to dig this out!
Key People-Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)
updated August 31, 2009 disclaimer
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obama/obamaorggen.html
RESEARCH Research Director Devorah Adler
(reported by Lynn Sweet on Jan. 11, 2007; started on the campaign on Jan. 24) Research director at the DNC in the 2006 cycle (starting Sept. or Oct. 2005 through Jan. 23). Previously deputy research director at the DNC under Mike Gehrke. At the DSCC in 2004. Policy director for Ron Kirk’s 2002 U.S. Senate race. Special Assistant in the Office of the Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle. Has also worked for Nancy Pelosi. Associate Director for Health Policy (Domestic Policy Council) in the Clinton Administration. Graduate of the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor.
This is my initial impression as well. Let’s not be too fast to lend credence to things like this. There are many established facts that are more than sufficient to call Obama’s eligibility and the authenticity of his short form into question.
White House basement.
But then, the most effective lies are the ones that weave some reality into them in a plausible way.
Lame attempt.
Perhaps we Freepers should put together a fake long form birth certificate and show them how to do it right, including real embossing.
Just saying.
“Disinformation-Propaganda Central” I tend to agree.
That’s why we must get/prove the origional IP address.
Someone had to make a phony one because the one fact check shows is a bold face fake
Interesting but I think we could wave the phony birth certificate in town square and people would just shake their heads......
I’ve been following the posts on http://citizenwells.wordpress.com
Looks like the responders are trying to suggest FR is responsible or at least knows who is responsible. Look at these posts.
“...Linda from NY // March 7, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Michelle // March 7, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Yes, there is. Free Republic knows exactly from where this story came but they aren’t talking, and there is no way CW could get the IP address.
Seems to me the only person who picked up this story is CW; all other blogs have referenced his article and in a matter of 5-7 hours, it was gone.
I still think Free Republic should post a retraction or something to let us know if this story is legit.
Confused in NY…Linda
PS Hoping CW will get to the bottom of this.
Linda from NY // March 7, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Aristotle the Hun @ 2:56 PM
Pardon my stupidity, but what are you smelling?
Sorry…Linda
zachjonesishome // March 7, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Just checking in. I was hoping you guys would have the answers. Darn.
I would think Free Republic would come forward with some kind of statement.
This has gotten a lot of attention. Isn’t it still a Sunday? Shut down a web site on a Sunday seems fairly rare.
Zach
If the birth certificate that’s on file with the Hawaii Department of Health could be proven to be a forgery, then we’d REALLY have a story!
I wish a prosecuting attorney, ANY prosecuting attorney in the nation would convene a Grand Jury investigation for forgery or fraud in publishing on the internet the Factcheck, Dail Kos and Fight the Smears birth certifications and then that prosecutor could subpoena the original birth certificate from the state of Hawaii for comparison, under oath, with expert testimony. Hawaii law allows for release of birth documents with “a court order from a court of competent jurisdiction.”
Media release on Obama’s Birth Certificate from the State of Hawaii:
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
Interesting post:
citizenwells // March 7, 2010 at 3:35 pm
I assume you all found this:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freerepublic2/
Still curious about Google cache.
Google Cashe may have some answers.
Remember the week-long “Kenyan Birth Certificate” gag?
These are distractions, off Rahm’s shelf, designed to distract us and burn our time, WHILE THE REAL BATTLE, Communist DeathCare, is rammed thru.
If folks want to investigate “Chanisse” or whatever her name is, that’s great. It’s better than great.
But let’s make that #2, after stopping the “crown jewel of Communism,” ObamaDeathCare.
RESEARCH
Research Director Devorah Adler(reported by Lynn Sweet on Jan. 11, 2007; started on the campaign on Jan. 24) Research director at the DNC in the 2006 cycle (starting Sept. or Oct. 2005 through Jan. 23). Previously deputy research director at the DNC under Mike Gehrke. At the DSCC in 2004. Policy director for Ron Kirk’s 2002 U.S. Senate race. Special Assistant in the Office of the Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle. Has also worked for Nancy Pelosi. Associate Director for Health Policy (Domestic Policy Council) in the Clinton Administration. Graduate of the University of Michigan-Ann Arbor.
Deputy Research Director Shauna Daly(reported by Lynn Sweet on Jan. 11, 2007) Deputy research director at the DNC in the 2006 cycle. Experience includes work for Sen. John Edwards’ presidential campaign.
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obama/obamaorg.html
Barack Obama’s Impressive Team
In announcing his presidential exploratory committee today, Sen. Barack Obama said he will not make a final decision on whether or not to run for president until February 10. Whether or not he’s officially in the race for the 2008 Democratic nomination, the Illinois senator already has recruited an impressive group to run his national effort.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/inner-circle/the-obama-inner-circle.html
Devorah Adler: Adler was the research director at the Democratic National Committee in the 2006 cycle where she gathered information about Republicans eyeing the presidency in 2008. She’ll now turn her attention to the records of Obama’s Democratic rivals as the research director for the Illinois senator’s national campaign.
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