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(PA) Troopers raid popular bars for unlicensed beers (and instead confiscate licensed ones)
Philadelphia Daily News / Philly.com ^ | March 8, 2010 | DON RUSSELL & BOB WARNER

Posted on 03/08/2010 11:00:41 AM PST by bamahead

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To: bamahead

The government did not get rid of the Mafia, they just replaced it with themselves.


41 posted on 03/08/2010 11:27:48 AM PST by microgood
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To: SJSAMPLE
At least they went home to their families that night.

If that is their main worry, they are in the WRONG line of work.

Nobody FORCES them to become police officers.

They are nothing more, and nothing less than FELLOW CITIZENS, entrusted with the responsibility of enforcing the law.

If this prospect frightens them, they should go into a different line of work.

Yes, they went home to their families, after STEALING ~$7000 worth of another private citizen's property, over a procedural error on THEIR part. But at least they were 'safe'.

42 posted on 03/08/2010 11:29:31 AM PST by Don W (I only keep certain folks' numbers in my 'phone so I know NOT to answer when they call)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I guess from now on you’ll take that little “Union Made” symbol on the can seriously....


43 posted on 03/08/2010 11:31:16 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bamahead

I can’t believe people put up with this procedural crap, from Big Brother!


44 posted on 03/08/2010 11:32:58 AM PST by SPC CHEESE
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To: GraceG
"...If my family started their own still to make ethanol for runnign thier vehicles, how long before the Revenuers would show up to cart them all to jail?..."

About as long as it would take a dozen or so of 'em to "Kevlar up", don their "Raid Jackets", load their guns, and convoy to your house.

45 posted on 03/08/2010 11:35:53 AM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: Dan Nunn

Do you still have to buy a license to buy/consume beer and other alcohol?..............


46 posted on 03/08/2010 11:37:38 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: bamahead

Obama now owns Anheiseur Busch? Who new?!!!


47 posted on 03/08/2010 11:40:49 AM PST by mo
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
(That whirring sound you are hearing is Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Adams, et al, spinning in their graves.)

Just imagine what Sam Adams is doing!

48 posted on 03/08/2010 11:42:47 AM PST by Ditto (Directions for Clean Government: If they are in, vote them out. Rinse and repeat.)
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To: Red Badger
Do you still have to buy a license to buy/consume beer and other alcohol?..............

Never heard of that one, that must LONG predate any drinking I've done in PA :)

49 posted on 03/08/2010 11:44:20 AM PST by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: bamahead
*sigh* -- They aren't disclosing the informant's name?

Amendment VI. In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of Counsel for his defence.

The informer is 'bearing witness' to the act that is resulting in criminal prosecution [or is the police seizure/arrest not part of prosecution? It has to be that apprehension _is_ part of the prosecution.]; that the 'witness' against them is not [yet] in a court of law is irrelevant.

50 posted on 03/08/2010 11:52:16 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Red Badger

In most states, you need some sort of documentation (usually government issued, state or federal, and at a fee) that shows you are age-eligible to purchase & consume alcohol so...the answer to your question is yes!


51 posted on 03/08/2010 11:54:52 AM PST by CT-Freeper (Said the frequently disappointed but ever optimistic Mets fan.)
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To: Dan Nunn

In 1974, a when I was in the Marine Corps at Camp Lejeune, NC, I drove a friend of mine up to Scranton to see his girlfriend one weekend. While they were doing whatever, I went to a local bar to while away some time. When I asked for a beer, the bar tender asked for my “ABC Card”. I told him in my deep Southern accent that I was from Florida and in the USMC and didn’t know what in heck he was talking about. They served me anyway..............


52 posted on 03/08/2010 11:57:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I think the whole incident is wrong, but I don’t think this would fall under that statute. I’m sure you sign some sort of waiver when you get a liquor license that allows this sort of raid. Additionally, now that the raid has taken place, the “witness” or “accuser” is now the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, not the informant.


53 posted on 03/08/2010 11:57:58 AM PST by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: CT-Freeper

In 1974, they asked me for an “ABC Card” which I assume was some sort of license to drink...........


54 posted on 03/08/2010 11:58:59 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: bamahead

Why do I suspect that somebody didn’t make the right contributions to the Dem party bosses?


55 posted on 03/08/2010 12:00:55 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Dan Nunn
. I’m sure you sign some sort of waiver when you get a liquor license that allows this sort of raid.

I am not a lawyer, or a Constitutional scholar, but is it possible to sign away your rights? I know that the govt does infringe, but doing so and having it stand up under appeal should be totally different. As in a "statute of limitations" to collect a debt. The state of WA has found that you waive that "right" in child support cases. Funny how millions of illegals steal identities, suck off of the system, but there is NO FORIVENESS for child support, parking/speeding tickets.

56 posted on 03/08/2010 12:02:58 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: Red Badger

I had no idea! I can’t even find anything about that policy on Google.


57 posted on 03/08/2010 12:03:46 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: bamahead

that is alcohol abuse!


58 posted on 03/08/2010 12:10:23 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, in PA it is like that.


59 posted on 03/08/2010 12:17:24 PM PST by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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To: Red Badger

In 1974, they asked me for an “ABC Card” which I assume was some sort of license to drink.....

In the 60’s and 70’s the LCB did issue their own ID cards. Technically they could ask you to produce one when you went to buy liquor, and did not have to sell to you if you didn’t have it. They went away after PA started putting photos on drivers licenses in the late 70’s.


60 posted on 03/08/2010 12:17:27 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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