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Pelosi's grip on House slips
Politico ^ | March 9, 2010 | Jonathan Allen

Posted on 03/09/2010 4:43:34 AM PST by Second Amendment First

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is not accustomed to the word she’s been hearing far more frequently in recent days: “no.”

Over the past two weeks, Pelosi has faced a series of subtle but significant challenges to her authority — revolts from Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee, the Congressional Black Caucus, the Blue Dog Coalition and politically vulnerable first- and second-term members.

The dynamic stems from an “every man for himself” attitude developing in the Democratic Caucus rather than a loss of respect for Pelosi, according to a senior Democratic aide. But it’s making Pelosi’s life — and efforts to maintain Democratic unity — harder.

And it’s noteworthy, in part, because Pelosi’s signature strength has been a firmer hand than past Democratic leaders — an aptitude for wielding raw power in a consensus-minded caucus.

But her inability — or unwillingness — to dictate when Rep. Charles Rangel would resign his Ways and Means Committee chairmanship and who would replace him is one sign that she is commanding the caucus with less authority.

Although he would give up his gavel the next day, Rangel defiantly pronounced he was still chairman after leaving a come-to-Jesus meeting last Tuesday night in Pelosi’s ceremonial office next to the House floor. Her first choice to succeed him, Pete Stark of California, was rejected by the Ways and Means Committee members, as was her plan to split power on the committee between Stark and Rep. Sander Levin of Michigan. Pelosi’s backers said that what she really wanted was to avoid a fight for the gavel — and that she succeeded by refusing to apply a heavy hand.

But a veteran Democratic lawmaker told POLITICO the denouement was “an indication that things aren’t all hunky-dory.”

That episode came immediately on the heels of Pelosi’s 180-degree turn on Rangel. After the ethics committee admonished him for breaking House gift rules, Pelosi issued a public message that she would stand by Rangel until the committee completed its look at other allegations against him.

“We’ll just see what happens next and what comes out of the ethics committee,” she said then.

But politically vulnerable Democrats sent a message right back: They would dump him if she didn’t.

Before leaders could gather last Tuesday to plan their week, politically imperiled Democratic lawmakers from around the country were making clear that they would vote with Republicans to strip Rangel of his chairmanship if Pelosi didn’t avert a floor vote by getting him to step down.

Even on legislative matters, Pelosi has been subject to low-grade insurrections. She was unable to send a $15 billion Senate-passed jobs bill directly to the president because members of the Congressional Black Caucus, the conservative Blue Dog Coalition and the Transportation Committee objected to some items that were in the bill and some that were absent.

CBC members said the measure shouldn’t even be called a “jobs bill” because, in their view, it would do little to create jobs.

Pelosi satisfied enough recalcitrant Democrats to amend the bill and send it back to the Senate last week — but not before 38 defections from the ranks of conservatives and CBC members put the measure in jeopardy on a procedural vote.

“Nancy Pelosi is a little bit like a Forest Service warden during a particularly dry summer in which there are little blazes springing up all over the place. Some of them can be easily contained, and others could grow into pretty serious forest fires,” said Ross Baker, a political science professor at Rutgers University in New Jersey.

Baker said Pelosi is not weaker than before but that the dynamics have shifted for her in short order.

“Her grasp is somewhat more tentative,” Baker said. “The obstacles that face her are just much more imposing than they were as recently as two years ago.”

Those obstacles include a tough election cycle and House Democrats’ desire to retaliate against the Senate for moving too slowly or too far to the middle. But when they vote no — whether they’re angry at Pelosi, the Democratic-controlled Senate or President Barack Obama — it is Pelosi’s tally that suffers.

There’s little room for the speaker to brook challenges on the controversial overhaul of the nation’s health care system, but her spokesman, Brendan Daly, said he’s not worried about residual effects of the Ways and Means Committee shake-up.

“I don’t think any of this was a challenge. As [Pelosi] said, now that’s behind us, and we’re going to move ahead,” Daly said. “We’re on the cusp of historic health reform, and she’s going to work very hard in the next few weeks to make sure that happens.”

Thomas Mann, a congressional scholar at the left-leaning Brookings Institution, said it’s hard to say Pelosi’s grip is slipping, because she never ruled with an iron fist.

“Pelosi’s strength has always been her ability to understand the diversity within her caucus and to figure out a way to bring [people] together when the tough votes come down,” Mann said. “I don’t see any change in her standing. She never had the capacity to issue orders.”

To be sure, Pelosi has pooled an immense reservoir of goodwill over the years, first as a talented rank-and-file Democrat and later as the leader who positioned Democrats to win, and then expand, a majority. Even in tough times, most of her fellow Democrats believe Pelosi is on their side.

“People know that her heart is right,” said Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.).

But that hasn’t stopped even some of Pelosi’s allies from bucking her in recent weeks.

In insisting that his resignation of the Ways and Means Committee chairmanship was only temporary — even though there is no such provision in House rules — Rangel said, “I wrote the letter and I wrote what I meant, and I said what I meant. If there’s anyone that needs clarification, it’s the speaker, not you.”


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1 posted on 03/09/2010 4:43:34 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First
I do not normally give positive, helpful advice to Democrats.

But if you guys want even a small chance in the future, strip Pelosi of any vestiges of power.

She's a moonbat, and moonbattery is now bad.

2 posted on 03/09/2010 4:47:02 AM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Pelosi’s been losing her grip for years, maybe decades.


3 posted on 03/09/2010 4:47:18 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 411 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Second Amendment First

How could any group of men (and women) fail to “respect” Nancy Pelosi? Isn’t she the epitome of perfect leadership?
Articulate, gracious, independent, compassionate, humble...

“Every man for himself”- now there’s a team ethic!


4 posted on 03/09/2010 4:47:54 AM PST by silverleaf ("Congress is America's only native criminal class."- Mark Twain)
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To: Lazamataz

They need to keep her, she represents their core constituency and the future of their party.


5 posted on 03/09/2010 4:49:03 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 411 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

(snicker)

You jest tryin’ to cause them problems. :)


6 posted on 03/09/2010 4:51:31 AM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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To: Lazamataz

Bats eyes innocently ~.~

Who me?


7 posted on 03/09/2010 4:53:25 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 411 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Second Amendment First

IMHO..the fact Pete Stark was shoved out of the way...means “healthcare” is a corpse....


8 posted on 03/09/2010 4:54:48 AM PST by mo
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To: Second Amendment First
Keep up the fight! Call or fax the congressmen Pelosi's going after with the message:

"I will make the highest allowable contributions to your primary opponent".

Or simply: "Scott Brown" or "Money Bomb".

9 posted on 03/09/2010 4:57:45 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: Lazamataz

” moonbattery is now bad. “

As in “assault and moonbattery”?


10 posted on 03/09/2010 4:58:22 AM PST by Humble Servant (see y'all in the Gulag.)
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To: Humble Servant

There will be a lot of congressmen on crutches after rham-it-through knee-caps them Chicago style.


11 posted on 03/09/2010 5:04:20 AM PST by Huebolt (Democrat = (national socialist) = NAZI)
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To: Huebolt

November 2010 will be a bloody month ...


12 posted on 03/09/2010 5:13:55 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Angels and Ministers of Grace, Defend Us ....)
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To: Second Amendment First

November and 2012 is shaping up to be golden opportunities for the Republicans - provided they stick to a Conservative message and avoid the traps of corruption the dims find themselves in right now.

My main fear is the RNC putting up another Juan McCain as our candidate. If they do that, we can kiss another four years good-bye. We’ll be lucky if we make it through the next three years with Obozo doing his damndest to destroy the economy.

Losing the next election may just be the final nail in the coffin.


13 posted on 03/09/2010 5:15:21 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Our politicians are stupid and our policies unsustainable)
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To: Second Amendment First
“Her (mental)grasp is somewhat (dramatically) more tentative,” Baker said. “The obstacles that face her are just much more imposing than they were as recently as two years ago.”
14 posted on 03/09/2010 5:27:44 AM PST by red tie
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To: Second Amendment First
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is not accustomed to the word she’s been hearing far more frequently in recent days: “no.”

I still shake my head every time I hear her speak. How did she and Harry Reid become the two most powerful people in Congress? I find them both embarrassing for the country; but I would be embarrassed to be a Democrat. It is quite astonishing to watch Democrats follow their two loser leaders right over a cliff.

15 posted on 03/09/2010 5:30:24 AM PST by Neverforget01 (The problem is the doing, not the talking....Gov Haley Barbour)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
November 2010 will be a bloody month ...

Perhaps in the literal sense if the Black Panthers feel a need to boost socialist turnout and suppress patriotic turnout in PA and other swing states. I worked polls and personally observed (and stopped) some of their stunts, and I'll be there again this year. We may see how far Obama's Brownshirts are willing to go.

16 posted on 03/09/2010 5:39:23 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Neverforget01
but I would be embarrassed to be a Democrat

Embarrassment is an afterthought for democrats. They live by one philosophy, and one philosophy alone: Party First, Party Foremost, Party Always. Nothing.. absolutely NOTHING... comes before their beloved Party. It's very reminiscent of the Soviet Union.

17 posted on 03/09/2010 6:10:29 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: Pollster1
Perhaps in the literal sense if the Black Panthers feel a need to boost socialist turnout and suppress patriotic turnout in PA and other swing states

I WISH they would try to show up here in Gloucester County, VA. They would not get out alive.

18 posted on 03/09/2010 6:11:45 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: Second Amendment First
San Fran Nan has had a tenuous grip on reality for some time now, and in this hour of Moonbat Malaise, her affliction is becoming ever more evident. And yet, most of her underlings will continue to follow her, up the hill and right off the cliff because that's what lemmings and lunatics always do.
19 posted on 03/09/2010 6:21:25 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Second Amendment First

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Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
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Rep. John S. Tanner 202-225-4714 Jackson office: 731-423-4848
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20 posted on 03/09/2010 6:34:35 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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