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To: tcrlaf

I understand how reconciliation is Constitutional — wherein the House passes the Senate bill, thus, with both chambers having passed the bill, it is able to be signed.

I do not understand how it would be Constitutional to have the Senate pass a bill and it be signed into law never having been passed by the House.

SnakeDoc


4 posted on 03/09/2010 12:46:04 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (The night is darkest just before the dawn, but [...] the dawn is coming. -- Harvey Dent)
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To: SnakeDoctor

If our elected Representatives no longer feel compelled to abide by their Constitutional duties, by what legal or ethical standard are we compelled to recognize them as our legitimate Representatives?


25 posted on 03/09/2010 12:56:07 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: SnakeDoctor
-- I do not understand how it would be Constitutional to have the Senate pass a bill and it be signed into law never having been passed by the House. --

The logic is that it would be passed - passing the reconciliation package also works passage of the Senate bill, but passage of the Senate bill is contingent on passing the reconciliation package.

The House wants to avoid passing the Senate bill, and then NOT pass the reconciliation stuff, or have the Senate NOT pass the reconciliation stuff.

26 posted on 03/09/2010 12:58:12 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: SnakeDoctor

Heck, I don’t see how the parts of the bill are Constitutional, since they are unrepealable by future congresses.

PS: what part of this bill constitutes “reform”??


28 posted on 03/09/2010 1:00:05 PM PST by cake_crumb (RR on ObieCare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&feature=player_embedded#)
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To: SnakeDoctor; All

I guess the “rules committee” would pass a “rule”, that did NOT have to be voted upon by the full House, that if (for instance) “HR ObamaCare Kills” bill passes, it is automatically be an addendum to the already-Senate passed “SR ObamaCare Is A Pile of Dung” bill.

Once “HROCK” PASSES, it is sent to Hussein along with the Senate bill.

If the rules committee can MAKE THE RULES without a vote of the House, it is a done deal.

ON REFLECTION, it could EVEN BE DONE WITH THE HOUSE VOTING on the RULE. The entire House of Representatives could VOTE on NOT VOTING on the Senate bill, and just attaching it to any given bill.

Some real stupid mental gymnastics there, but I think that is how they could do it.

The Hussein-fellating media will never criticize such a move.


34 posted on 03/09/2010 1:05:29 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: SnakeDoctor; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; BOBTHENAILER
"I understand how reconciliation is Constitutional"

I do too for budgetary and deficit reduction purposes only, but that's not what this lipsticked pig is!

What ever happened to the "conference committees" required for reconciling all other bills? Seems they are forgetting all about that usual step in their fiendish pace of confiscating our free markets and a hell of a lot of our freedoms!!!

50 posted on 03/09/2010 2:58:00 PM PST by SierraWasp (Hey Democrats! Stop tryna jerk everybody around by their healthcare!!! Especially you, 0bama!!!)
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