Posted on 03/11/2010 8:40:22 AM PST by mikelets456
WASHINGTON (AP) - House Democratic leaders Thursday walked their rank-and-file members through last-minute agreements that could move President Barack Obama's overhaul of the nation's health care system a step closer to reality.
Although some issues remained unresolved—including a divisive battle over restricting taxpayer funding of abortion—House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said: "We have enough to move forward."
White House officials and congressional Democratic leaders met Wednesday evening in Pelosi's office. Aides said they agreed on scaling back a health insurance tax that unions object to, and on gradually closing the Medicare prescription drug coverage gap. They were not far apart on other major issues, including Medicaid funding for states that already provide above-average benefits, and on improving subsidies that would be available under the plan to help individuals and families pay their premiums.
It will come down to a phenomenal effort by congressional leaders and the White House to win over skittish lawmakers after a year of incendiary debate, even as Obama keeps up campaign-style appearances designed to fire up public support.
At stake is the fate of the president's call to expand health care to some 30 million people who lack insurance and to prohibit insurance company practices such as denial of coverage on the basis of pre-existing
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Der Fuhrer and his Nazis have gathered to plot against America. These fascist piggies are going to pay dearly at the polls in November.
If we make it until then... Will this be law? Can it be repealed?
Look, I don’t go for the Nazi reference. We all know this comes down to whether the Dems fear Pelosi more than their own constituents and we will know how that gets resolved the minute she calls for the vote. If this HCR is truly their “cause of a lifetime” and they have majorities in both houses of Congress and the Presidency and CAN’T get this done, they may as well fold their tent and put the D party out of business.
“Can it be repealed?”
Techically, yes it can be. In reality, no way.
To repeal it, it would require a motivated group of politicians dedicated to the cause. That is to say, politicians with a will, and a spine. Repealing this “great gift” would be to face the wrath of Hollywood, the MSM, and the far left.
Republicans have shown they don’t have the fortitude to do what’s right.
Don’t be fooled by the news souce, this is an AP story, same one regurtitated the last 9 months..Speaker’s Pelosi says, blah, blah..Final negotiations. Even FoxNews has been parroting this line for the past 6 weeks.
Obama has cleared teh field of opponents.
Obama and his minions have censored opposition stories. (see drudge)
Does congress even allow FR on their computers?
Correction: “President Obama’s “destruction” of the nation’s health care system.”
Correction: “President Obama’s “destruction” of the nation’s health care system.”
“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said: “We have enough to move forward.”
Pelosi struggles to maintain an aura of viability for passage of this monstrosity-it’s just puffing.
It’s looking bad for the good guys & MAO-bama will get socialism passed. As a long time Bengals fan, I know desperation when I see it.
I think repealing this bill will be what republicans running for office in Nov, will be using as a campaign promise. They would be foolish not to, since if this passes, people will be up in arms, and looking for someone to make it go away.
If and when it passes, that wont be the last we hear. People, including some politicians, will be fighting to have it repealed.
If they had the votes, they would have voted already.
Tyranny and treason from the feces in DC.
The Fascism reference is appropriate in light of the fact that they are colluding to pass this bill in open hostility towards the citizenry who opposes it.
Makes for better headlines.
Let's stipulate that the Republicans are useless. They haven't dismantled much of the welfare state to date and they won't come to it easily. But we never had a deeply unpopular new entitlement that we plainly could not afford and that cost the party sponsoring it control of the House before. The idea that Obamacare could stay on the books much past next year's election is just silly.
If the Dems ram it through, which is very unlikely but still possible, the next election will be, as several Republican leaders have already said, a referendums on Obamacare. The new Republican House would come into office in January of 2011 with a clear mandate to smother Obamacare in its crib. They would have learned from recent experience the consequences of neglecting their mandate. As spineless as they are, they would not be in a position to pass any budget that funded Obamacare or perpetuated the tax increases for which it provides. Obama would have a choice between presiding over a federal government without Obamacare or presiding over a federal government that ceased to operate altogether. Having just decisively lost an election universally regarded as a referendum on Obamacare, he would not be able to shut the government down and blame Congress for its recalcitrant refusal to perpetuate it. If he tried he would catch all the blame and precipitate a Jennine constitutional crisis. If it came to shooting there is a 0 per cent probability that the guys with the guns would back him up. Obama would acquiesce in the death of Obamacare or he would become America's Allende.
Elections, as Obama himself has repeatedly reminded us, have consequences. The Dems have lost the argument over Obamacare decisively. They will have to bow to electoral reality, either before they get thrashed or after. It doesn't do any good to go around announcing, as so many conservatives do, that passing Obamacare would be forever. It isn't even close to true and it just boosts the enemy's morale. The Dems need to understand that they have nothing to gain in passing Obamacare. There's no point in dying to take a hill you can't hold and Obamacare is a hill the Dems can't possibly hold.
Let's stipulate that the Republicans are useless. They haven't dismantled much of the welfare state to date and they won't come to it easily. But we never had a deeply unpopular new entitlement that we plainly could not afford and that cost the party sponsoring it control of the House before. The idea that Obamacare could stay on the books much past next year's election is just silly.
If the Dems ram it through, which is very unlikely but still possible, the next election will be, as several Republican leaders have already said, a referendums on Obamacare. The new Republican House would come into office in January of 2011 with a clear mandate to smother Obamacare in its crib. They would have learned from recent experience the consequences of neglecting their mandate. As spineless as they are, they would not be in a position to pass any budget that funded Obamacare or perpetuated the tax increases for which it provides. Obama would have a choice between presiding over a federal government without Obamacare or presiding over a federal government that ceased to operate altogether. Having just decisively lost an election universally regarded as a referendum on Obamacare, he would not be able to shut the government down and blame Congress for its recalcitrant refusal to perpetuate it. If he tried he would catch all the blame and precipitate a Jennine constitutional crisis. If it came to shooting there is a 0 per cent probability that the guys with the guns would back him up. Obama would acquiesce in the death of Obamacare or he would become America's Allende.
Elections, as Obama himself has repeatedly reminded us, have consequences. The Dems have lost the argument over Obamacare decisively. They will have to bow to electoral reality, either before they get thrashed or after. It doesn't do any good to go around announcing, as so many conservatives do, that passing Obamacare would forever. It isn't even close to true and it just boosts the enemy's morale. The Dems need to understand that they have nothing to gain in passing Obamacare. There's no point in dying to take a hill you can't hold and Obamacare is a hill the Dems can't possibly hold.
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