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Wyoming gov. signs bill on federal gun regulation
trib.com ^ | 11 March, 2010 | BEN NEARY

Posted on 03/12/2010 6:33:43 AM PST by marktwain

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Gov. Dave Freudenthal on Thursday signed into law a bill that seeks to exempt firearms made in Wyoming and used exclusively in the state from federal regulations, making the state the latest to try to undermine federal authority on gun regulation.

Montana, Tennessee and Utah have already passed similar legislation to exempt firearms made in their states from federal regulations and Idaho and Alaska have been considering it.

A lawsuit over the issue is brewing in Montana, where gun advocates are arguing that the state should decide which rules, if any, should control the sale and purchase of guns made and used in the state.

Freudenthal expressed concerns that the new law could leave firearms dealers in the state caught between contradictory demands of state and federal law.

Freudenthal wrote to legislative leaders saying he wanted to alert the public and lawmakers about problems he saw in House Bill 95, dubbed the "Wyoming Firearms Freedom Act" by supporters. The governor said it should have received greater attention in drafting and content.

"This act is a notable illustration of well-intended legislation rushed through without appropriate consideration of potential unintended consequences," Freudenthal wrote.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: 10a; 10thamendment; banglist; constitution; donttreadonme; liberty; shallnotbeinfringed; statesrights; wy
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To: Still Thinking

True.

Gov. Dave has been a very fiscally prudent governor, however, and this past fiscal year, there’s been a 10% cut across the board in state spending in Wyoming. Almost nothing was exempt, not even the typical sacred “education spending” nonsense. Public schools and community colleges had to buckle down and get tight with the money - because the alternative would be raising taxes, something that Gov. Dave is very loathe to do.

This is why I think he’s a damn sight more competent than the typical idiots in the GOP. The GOP has talked a big game on cutting spending.

Gov. Dave, however, has actually cut spending. Not just reduced the rate of growth, but spent less this past year than the previous year - ie, a real reduction in public spending. If the GOP could actually do the same thing, they would not be a minority party.


21 posted on 03/12/2010 11:50:56 AM PST by NVDave
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To: PapaBear3625

Exactly correct - you can make plenty of firearms for yourself.

Do NOT sell them tho, because once you cross that threshold, you bring down a big wad of law and regulation onto yourself.

CNC mills need not be all that expensive. You can find 3-axis retrofits to Bridgeport-style mills quite reasonably now. With a used knee mill and some effort on your part, you could put together a 3-axis CNC mill for under $10K.

That said, without a simulator, there’s a bit more to CNC than loading the metal and hitting the green button. It is mighty expensive to debug a CNC program by trying to run it for real when you’re eating up $50 to $100 end mills and a billet of metal...

As I mentioned on another thread, it is entirely possible for you to buy a used manual mill for the $2K range. It wouldn’t take you more than a week of evenings after work to crank out your first AR-15 lower from a billet - and once you’ve done one (and learned from your mistakes), you will get much faster at it. If you want to make bolt guns, toss in a South Bend 10L lathe (which are increasingly difficult to find) for another $2K (add more for tooling) and you can do things like barrel receivers, turn barrels, etc.

A home gunsmith who is willing to make a bunch of his own tooling could get going for about $10K and start making himself a regular arsenal.


22 posted on 03/12/2010 11:58:02 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

What — you don’t like holes in your vise?


23 posted on 03/12/2010 12:05:07 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: NVDave

Yeah, but I think the tricky part is going to be rifling the barrels.


24 posted on 03/12/2010 12:06:00 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: NVDave

The other oversimplification I noted with that scenario is that a receiver isn’t going to be able to be cut in a single setup. Now if the vendor designs jigs for all the setups, and permanently attaches them to the bed so their location is pre dialed in, that will go a long ways towards making it reasonably idiot proof, but still.


25 posted on 03/12/2010 12:25:38 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: NVDave
That said, without a simulator, there’s a bit more to CNC than loading the metal and hitting the green button. It is mighty expensive to debug a CNC program by trying to run it for real when you’re eating up $50 to $100 end mills and a billet of metal...

This is why I said in my original post that somebody could create the software once, and sell usage of it.

In other words, somebody sets up a shop where a private person could rent use of the machine and rent use of the software that would let the machine turn a block of specified size into, say, an AR-15 lower receiver.

The user then inserts the block, starts the program, lets it run, and takes away the milled receiver. As long as its him putting the block on himself, positioning it on the machine, and hitting start, then he's made it himself.

26 posted on 03/12/2010 12:30:47 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: marktwain
Good move. Won't stand, and I wouldn't suggest anyone buy an unregistered gun, but a symbolic move none the less.
27 posted on 03/12/2010 2:54:07 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: marktwain

Now someone has to start a safe starage place in Wyoming where one can buy use the then store your wyoming firearm until the next time you vist there.


28 posted on 03/12/2010 4:55:18 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Still Thinking
Sheesh. How could the guy be so dense?

I presume you're referring to Gov. Dave Freudenthal(D)??? Apparently serving his second and last term as guv so he can say just about anything he wants whether it is reflective of the good folks of Wyoming or not.

29 posted on 03/12/2010 10:25:20 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: marktwain

bttt


30 posted on 03/13/2010 11:54:16 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Wickard is one I use against liberals on gardening forums. They don't know what to say though. Its as if it didn't happen. The blot it out. What Wickard led to was even worse but if they don't get Wickard, they'll never understand: Williamson v. Lee Optical Co
31 posted on 03/14/2010 12:09:16 AM PST by Brugmansian
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