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When Congress Cheats on Its Rules
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 12 March 2010 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 03/12/2010 10:00:09 AM PST by Congressman Billybob

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No one has talked about this. Thought y'all would find it interesting.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 03/12/2010 10:00:09 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob

In my opinion, we’re witnessing tyranny and treason perpetrated against the United States of America by our government. This thug Administration and this Congress have declared war upon We The People.


2 posted on 03/12/2010 10:03:51 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Maybe the House should give the Supreme Court a call, after all they are the ones who stood and cheered when Obama stuck his foot in his mouth during the State of the Union Address.


3 posted on 03/12/2010 10:04:06 AM PST by Venturer
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But, before the Supremes get involved, doesn’t someone have to file a lawsuit, which can only happen after it’s passed? And, won’t it have to work its way through the lower courts before the Supremes could issue a definitive ruling?


4 posted on 03/12/2010 10:04:10 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Congressman Billybob

Obama didn’t help his cause when he castigated and villified the SCOTUS. This might turn out to be a howl!!


5 posted on 03/12/2010 10:05:47 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Bump for followup


6 posted on 03/12/2010 10:06:45 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Great piece as always, John. Another question...early in the discussion of Obamacare, way before the possibility of reconciliation came up..there was some talk that the mandate forcing individuals to purchase healthcare insurance was unconstitutional, and should be challenged in the courts...have you heard any more about this, and any thoughts?


7 posted on 03/12/2010 10:07:38 AM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Levin was pretty emphatic about the distinct and substantive possibility that action could be brought against Louise Slaughter for her efforts to subvert Constitutional rules. Not congressional rules, Constitutional rules. I believe he referred to Article 1, section 7, but I could be mis-remembering that.


8 posted on 03/12/2010 10:09:11 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

What’s funny about this is that if this scenario played out you can guarantee whines and cries about the activist court and unconstitutionality of it. These would be the same Democrats that are currently trampling all over the constitution to get it passed.

I wouldn’t count on this option. Even if it would happen, it may take years. We’re just getting around to having the court repeal most of the unconstitutional McCain/Feingold.


9 posted on 03/12/2010 10:09:28 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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Isn't the Slaughter rule a direct violation of the Constitution, though? Not just a violation of a house rule?

It would be nice if this ended up in the court, seeing as how Barry just ground his boot heel in their faces during the state of the union. He does have a gift.

10 posted on 03/12/2010 10:11:01 AM PST by throwback (o)
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Interesting indeed, and thanks as always for sharing your wisdom and experience, John. I’ve under the presumption that the Democrat majority will prevail and pass “whatever”, and have been wondering about what comes next, i.e. what other remedies may exist. I will be very interested to get your take on whatever “rules” are followed, bent, or broken in the process of getting this jammed through Congress, as that would seem to be the key to SCOTUS involvement.

I’m also curious if you feel the blocking measures being considered by a number of states will have any merit in slowing down the HCR bill or in forcing a court test. Or are these efforts a waste of time based on federal presemption?


11 posted on 03/12/2010 10:11:20 AM PST by bigbob
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If they insist on bannana republic governance they should not be surprised if the people are driven to seek banana republic relief.


12 posted on 03/12/2010 10:11:23 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The courts are capable of acting very quickly when the situation is urgent. About half of my cases in the Supreme Court got there from trial to appeals to the Supreme Court in less than two months.

John / Billybob

13 posted on 03/12/2010 10:11:39 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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it’s called “the ends justify the means”


14 posted on 03/12/2010 10:11:43 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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I found it very interesting. Thanks Congressman Billybob. I do hope that this appeal to the Supreme Court requesting an immediate restraining order, if Pelosi/Reid 'rahm' this abortion of a bill through Congress, is already drafted and ready if needed?
15 posted on 03/12/2010 10:12:28 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Congressman Billybob; OldDeckHand; tired_old_conservative

Who would have standing to contest the healthcare legislation on the basis of rules violation? Only a Member of the House or Senate? Would such a case be filed in the Federal District Court in D.C.? If so, I assume it would be appealed to the SCOTUS. I wonder how long it would take.

Excellent article, CB. Thanks.


16 posted on 03/12/2010 10:14:11 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Two words - Restraining Order.

Music to my ears.

17 posted on 03/12/2010 10:14:36 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If this thing gets to the POTUS, it will signify a constitutional crisis of emormous proportions. It will be an example of glaring arrogance and abuse of power. It will signify the beginning of the end for governance by consensus of the governed.

We will be watching an historic event that more than portends dissaster and will be viewed in retrospect as the worst thing that has ever happened to our country.

I pray to God this thing does not come to pass.


18 posted on 03/12/2010 10:14:44 AM PST by downtownconservative
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The SOBs cant, with a huge majority, wrangle enough votes to pass the piece of trash so they try to just skip that part. I’m normally pretty laid back but this has pissed me off bad enough that I’m about ready to join a revolution!

Whats next?? Skip elections?? Make uhhbama prez for life???

THIS aint what America is about.


19 posted on 03/12/2010 10:15:26 AM PST by weezel
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To: ken5050
I thoroughly agree that a law which forces all Americans to buy a particular product (health insurance) is unconstitutional. Such a case should be brought the instant that this bill becomes law. That is separate from what I am talking about.

John / Billybob

20 posted on 03/12/2010 10:15:37 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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