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Holland proposes giving over-70s the right to die if they 'consider their lives complete'
Daily Mail ^ | March 13, 2010

Posted on 03/13/2010 3:56:53 PM PST by NYer

Assisted suicide for anyone over 70 who has simply had enough of life is being considered in Holland.

Non-doctors would be trained to administer a lethal potion to elderly people who 'consider their lives complete'.

The radical move would be a world first and push the boundaries even further in the country that first legalised euthanasia.

The Dutch parliament is to debate the measure after campaigners for assisted suicide collected 112,500 signatures in a month.

Euthanasia has been available for the terminally ill in Holland since 2002 in cases of 'hopeless and unbearable suffering' certified by two doctors, but this would be a far bigger step.

Supporters say it would offer a dignified way to die for those over 70 who just want to give up living, without having to resort to difficult or unreliable solitary suicide methods.

They might include widows and widowers overwhelmed by grief, those unwilling to face the frailties of extreme old age or people determined to ‘get out while they’re ahead’ and meet death on their own terms.

The assistants who administered the deadly cocktail of sedatives would need to be certified, campaigners said.

And they would have to make sure that patients were not acting on a whim or due to a temporary depression, but from a heartfelt and enduring desire to die.

But critics say there is scope for the elderly to come under untoward pressure from unscrupulous relatives.

Many religious groups oppose any form of suicide on principle.

And the Royal Dutch Medical Association - which played a key role in supporting the nation's euthanasia law - fears patients would use the policy as a way of getting around their own doctors.

Although Switzerland allows assisted suicide in cases where someone is not terminally ill, the Dutch measure would go further.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: holland; moralabsolutes; suicide
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World first: Holland will consider assisted suicide for over 70s

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1 posted on 03/13/2010 3:56:53 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

Oy vey!


2 posted on 03/13/2010 3:57:12 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

How long before its mandated?


3 posted on 03/13/2010 3:58:44 PM PST by GeronL (I said it yesterday and I'll say it today and everyday: Tomorrow I stop being so lazy!!)
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To: GeronL

2 years


4 posted on 03/13/2010 3:59:47 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: NYer

Holland proposes giving over-70’s the right to die assisted suicide if Holland considers them “useless eaters”.


5 posted on 03/13/2010 4:00:55 PM PST by This Just In
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To: stephenjohnbanker

That’s quick.


6 posted on 03/13/2010 4:01:03 PM PST by GeronL (I said it yesterday and I'll say it today and everyday: Tomorrow I stop being so lazy!!)
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To: NYer

All of us have always had that right. The difference is that now the government is moving toward exercising that right for us.


7 posted on 03/13/2010 4:01:29 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: NYer

NYER I hear about that this week I got question are they that bored in Holland that they need off themselves


8 posted on 03/13/2010 4:02:17 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: NYer
You said it!!! Let see here, grandma has lots and lots of money. I'd really really like to have all that money, hey grandma..........

This is a slippery slope, just like abortion was, it's nothing but a free for all now. Anything goes, I have a hangnail, I want an abortion. I feel sad for 5 minutes, give me some pills so I can kill myself.

9 posted on 03/13/2010 4:05:36 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: GeronL

Socialism always comes in doses ;-)

Except for Obama.


10 posted on 03/13/2010 4:06:07 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: MsLady

“I feel sad for 5 minutes, give me some pills so I can kill myself. “

Take gramma off her anti depression meds.......a few days later, she is gone. Kids inherit the house and the money. Case closed.


11 posted on 03/13/2010 4:07:48 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: NYer

0bama can’t wait to load the death panels full of political lackeys. Next would be to persuade the elderly and terminal to “do their duty for the common good”.


12 posted on 03/13/2010 4:08:08 PM PST by etradervic (It's the People's Seat ! http://www.toomeyforsenate.com)
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To: MsLady

Holland pays out incredible benefits to retired people and I guess this must be the sign that they’re feeling the pinch.

Things started changing in Holland when they started letting in the immigrants.


13 posted on 03/13/2010 4:10:26 PM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: NYer

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14 posted on 03/13/2010 4:10:28 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: NYer

I get cold chills looking at that photo of the elderly lady.

There have been a couple of pingouts of articles about this. Maybe I’ll ping this one tomorrow for those who missed the other ones.

They’re trying to turn this world into a hell.


15 posted on 03/13/2010 4:10:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: NYer; ExTexasRedhead

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16 posted on 03/13/2010 4:11:19 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yep, there you go, license to kill and make it look like a suicide.


17 posted on 03/13/2010 4:13:21 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

It would be even worse over here, I fear.


18 posted on 03/13/2010 4:15:49 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I don’t know if it would be worse or not. But, it sure as heck would be nasty. It makes me sick just to think about it. First the elderly, then the infirm, then the retarded, then anyone who’s different,.....


19 posted on 03/13/2010 4:21:19 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

We must stop Osama Care!!


20 posted on 03/13/2010 4:23:00 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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