Same old, same old-note some of the names(Ickes) are the same, although the younger Ickes is not in Obama’s group of red thugs, he was in Clinton’s and is still hanging around ready to become one of the ruling elite.
“Same old, same old...”
Yeah, we are in the 2d and 3rd family generations of many of today’s players.
You may be correct about Ickes not being in Obama’s group of red thugs, at least today, because of Ickes’ devotion to Hillary.
However, Ickes did put Soros together with SEIU’s Andrew Stern and other left-wing activists and he has worked closely with Soros to create several campaign fund raising operations structured to circumvent McCain-Feingold.