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4 Supreme Court Cases define "natural born citizen"
The Post Mail ^ | 10/18/2009 | John Charlton

Posted on 03/14/2010 12:04:10 PM PDT by etraveler13

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To: etraveler13

General Certifigate Debate Points:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2467021/posts?page=83#83

A Forgery?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467703/posts?page=13#13


121 posted on 03/14/2010 4:38:53 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks for the invitation but JimRob made his decision clear.


122 posted on 03/14/2010 4:44:23 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Oh, I apologize. Not trying to get you in trouble.


123 posted on 03/14/2010 4:48:30 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I wouldn’t say the DNC was tricked. They themselves tricked the voters. I don’t believe for a minute they didn’t know their guy wasn’t eligible.


124 posted on 03/14/2010 4:55:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah

Of course they knew. Pelosi signed the form saying he was qualified for the state ballots and she was there when the congress asked McCain for his birth certificate. These people can’t be in prison long enough IMHO.


125 posted on 03/14/2010 4:57:32 PM PDT by votemout
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To: votemout

I’d prefer charges of treason with duly applicable punishments but I’ll settle for long prison terms.


126 posted on 03/14/2010 5:01:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah

You got me. Hillary supporters were the first “birthers”.


127 posted on 03/14/2010 5:01:57 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: little jeremiah

Wish a state prosecutor would try him for fraudelant filing of ballot qualifications. Somebody has to step up since the USSC seems to be turning their heads.


128 posted on 03/14/2010 5:04:36 PM PDT by votemout
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To: MindBender26
Natural Born means a citizen at the moment of birth by conditions or parentage and birth, not a persona who was made a citizen by application later, i.e. one who was “naturalized” i.e, made as if Natural

The Supreme Court of the United States, disagrees.

"But it [the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment] has not touched the acquisition of citizenship by being born abroad of American parents; and has left that subject to be regulated, as it had always been, by Congress, in the exercise of the power conferred by the Constitution to establish an uniform rule of naturalization."
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"The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution . . . contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization. Citizenship by naturalization can only be acquired by naturalization under the authority and in the forms of law. But citizenship by birth is established by the mere Page 401 U. S. 841 fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution. Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization. A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory; or by authority of Congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts."
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1. Over 70 years ago, the Court, in an opinion by Mr. Justice Gray, reviewed and discussed early English statutes relating to rights of inheritance and of citizenship of persons born abroad of parents who were British subjects. United States v. Won Kim Ark, 169 U. S. 649, 169 U. S. 668-671 (1898). The Court concluded that "naturalization by descent" was not a common law concept, but was dependent, instead, upon statutory enactment. The statutes examined were 25 Edw. 3, Stat. 2 (1350); 29 Car. 2, c. 6 (1677); 7 Anne, c. 5, § 3 (1708); 4 Geo. 2, c. 21 (1731); and 13 Geo. 3, c. 21 (1773). Later, Mr. Chief Justice Taft, speaking for a unanimous Court, referred to this "very learned and useful opinion of Mr. Justice Gray," and observed
ROGERS V. BELLEI, 401 U. S. 815 (1971)

Pesons not born in the United States, with one possible exception, but acquiring citizenship at birth via statute, are considered "naturalized at birth". Naturalization being the only power to confer citizenship Congress has.

129 posted on 03/14/2010 5:13:14 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: votemout

I don’t think a president can be tried until impeached and removed from the bench.


130 posted on 03/14/2010 5:13:55 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: etraveler13
Obama’s father was Obama Sr a kenyan,...

You can't prove that. The babydaddy might have been Frank Davis, who was a citizen. Except BHO can't go there now because Bill Ayres forged a history for him in a best selling fiction. Ironic.

131 posted on 03/14/2010 5:19:07 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: frog in a pot

You’re describing the grossest negligence and complicity with fraud.


132 posted on 03/14/2010 5:37:21 PM PDT by walkthewalk
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To: MileHi; etraveler13
Obama’s father was Obama Sr a kenyan,... You can't prove that.

Those pesky divorce papers on file in Hawaii between his mother and his Kenyan father is all the proof that is needed --

133 posted on 03/14/2010 5:43:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Wow! I never knew divorce papers proved paternity!
134 posted on 03/14/2010 5:54:23 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Uncle Chip

BTW, could you get me the link to the marriage records? I lost that. Any how, SR never acknowledged the divorce papers. But at least they made things “look better” for the Dunham clan.


135 posted on 03/14/2010 5:58:33 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

Supposedly there is a missing page in the Obama Dunham divorce suit. Many suspect the missing page has the proof to where Obama Jr. was born.


136 posted on 03/14/2010 5:59:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I have the same list of info he will not supply...


It is now known that the COLB posted by FactCheck is a fake, the creator, 2 years later, admitted they created it.
at least that is the story.

Hawaii, will not agree the COLB is correct...

There you go...

Again, it does not matter. His father is NOT a US Citizen, he does not qualify to be president under the Constitution.

Lets stay on subject people.


137 posted on 03/14/2010 5:59:43 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: MileHi

I have more proof that he is, than I have that he isn’t
* Obams’s own statement in 2 books he wrote
* Every birth certificate says he is...
* Every family member says he is.
* Divorce decree says he is...
* Adoption proceedings for Lolo Soetoro says he is...
* Family in Kenya, and the US say he is, and have pictures..

What do you got?? Conspiracy theories for Frank Marshall Davis, or Rape stories???

Give me facts and evidence that verify anything...Hey, we could get DNA from Obama, and Davis, and Malcom X? LOL
Whatayagot??
(sarcasm off)


138 posted on 03/14/2010 6:09:14 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: little jeremiah

I agree....wholeheartedly...


139 posted on 03/14/2010 6:10:05 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: castlegreyskull
Trolls don’t work on Sunday, they are paid Federal Workers.

This is my day off and all, but here's a freebee...but don't ask for anymore.


140 posted on 03/14/2010 6:12:34 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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