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To: johniegrad
"Joseph Ratzinger said in his 2004 speech to the Italian Senate: “In many respects, democratic socialism was and is close to Catholic social doctrine and has in any case made a remarkable contribution to the formation of a social consciousness."

http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=1219

Efforts to restore a viable balance by reappropriating a sense of the common good and social solidarity have marked Western history for the last couple of centuries. In Europe such efforts were spearheaded by Catholic social teaching and democratic socialism, whose political expression in Christian Democratic and Social Democratic parties created the decent societies that have marked the recent history of Britain and Western Europe. When the present Pope in his last year as Cardinal Ratzinger met with Jürgen Habermas, he expressed his sympathy with the tradition of social democracy and said that it was similar to Catholic social teachings. In its fullness that is surely the case, but when American Catholic ideologues reduce Catholic ethics to an exclusive concern with abortion and gay marriage they take the social out of Catholic social teachings and become spokesmen not for the authentic Catholic tradition but for a narrow quasi-Protestant sect."

Meaning, they "American" Catholic "ideologues" are not socialist enough on other issues.

http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2009/01/12/this-is-our-moment-this-is-our-time/

Ratzinger has even referred to himself as a "Democratic Socialist"

They - the Catholic hierarchy - are not opposed to greater Federal power over our lives at all, for any reason, outside of "right to life" issues.

19 posted on 03/15/2010 11:07:10 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
Concerning the Church's teaching on social matters, I would invite you to The Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church.

In my opinion, the best statement reflecting Catholic social teaching in relationship to the current health care debate is that of the Catholic Medical Association. I am a member and will post the brief statement:

RESOLUTION ON HEALTH CARE REFORM

78th Annual General Assembly

October 23, 2009

Whereas, President Obama and Congress have been engaged in efforts to enact health care reform legislation in 2009 with the result that bills have been voted out of committees in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; and

Whereas, in an effort to change health care financing and delivery, some bills propose to vest, in a small set of unelected officials in the federal government, unprecedented powers to dictate the content of and charges for health insurance plans, the authorization of treatments, and provider reimbursement; and

Whereas, in the current legislative process, committees in both the House of Representatives and the Senate have refused to establish minimal, much less adequate, respect for the conscience rights of health care providers and have refused to exclude funding of abortion; and

Whereas, despite the significant shortcomings of current legislative bills and processes, Congress and President Obama have repeatedly expressed their determination to enact legislation before the end of calendar year 2009 – a timeframe too short to allow adequate consideration and transparency;

Therefore, be it resolved that:

CMA members urge Congress and their elected representatives to “reset” the effort to enact health care reform legislation, to reexamine their commitment to the principles of the current legislation, and to begin the process anew; and

Be it resolved that Congress enact legislation that respects the Principle of Subsidiarity by recognizing the rights of individuals, families, groups and communities to make decisions about their health care insurance and treatment options; and

Be it resolved that Congress enact legislation respecting the physician-patient relationship rather than legislation inserting more bureaucrats and regulations into this relationship; and

Be it resolved that before or concurrent with passing any health care reform legislation, Congress provide comprehensive, enforceable protection for the conscience rights of health care providers, institutions, and programs; and

Be it resolved that any health care legislation passed by Congress and signed into law shall exclude any funding of abortion; and

Be it resolved that Congress should enact legislation that respects the Principle of Solidarity in reforming Medicaid and Medicare and in providing a way for those who fall outside current social assistance programs to obtain basic health care services consistent with human dignity and justice; and

Be it resolved that Congress enact legislation permitting fair and transparent competition for health care insurance plans so that individuals and families can purchase affordable health insurance that comports with their values and needs.

When the CMA places the first emphasis on the principle of subsidiarity, it is saying that this is not an issue that the federal government should ever be involved in. The principle of subsidiarity is a cornerstone of Catholic social teaching and a discussion can be found in the Compendium cited above. In my opinion, this is the direction that the bishops should have taken their argument and some, including Bishop Chaput, Bishop Vasa, and others understand this.

So, it is incorrect to assume that the worldwide Church is socialistic in nature but I understand how a superficial view of Catholic social teaching could lead one to believe this.

Again, I would encourage you to read the Compendium which I think may help in this regard.

22 posted on 03/15/2010 2:50:55 PM PDT by johniegrad
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