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To: silverleaf

Yes, God bless you and what you are doing with and for these girls.

However - the GS’s as an organization is ruined.

When my little girl first became a brownie, they received books about Mother Earth, Father Sky. She came home in tears one afternoon and told me that soon all the water on the earth would be gone and then we would all die.

I had to show her the globe and talk about the water cycle on the Earth, talk about how purification works, show her pictures of the oceans and polar caps, etc before she could sleep.

They had to report on if their families recycled (we didn’t and she was ashamed). God was never mentioned. Helping others was never mentioned. No knife safety, weaving, making sit-upons, hiking, camp songs. Cookie sales were the primary goal. (Brownies didn’t even sell cookies when I was a kid)

OH! And..the kids would go straight to the meetings after school. The leader would wait until they were finishing up to give the ravenous little girls a snack, usually something dreadful like a donut or cookies. Just in time to ruin dinner.


21 posted on 03/16/2010 8:29:52 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four
that was a bad leader, not a bad organization

like my mother before me, when what I saw of GS troop leadership did not meet my standards, I stepped up and became a leader.

GS as an organization is only “ruined” when no one who has ideas about how to do it right- steps up and does it right

BTW, that whacko stuff your kid heard about the environment at Brownies, my kids hears at school- Catholic school

Here is the GS Promise as it is still written and recited:
On my Honor I will try
To serve God* and my Country
To help people at all times
And to live by the GS law

* If an individual wishes to substitute another word for God or her higher power belief, she may do so. (Ditto for Boy Scouts who may substitute another deity name. Which is done in Hindu, Muslim and other nations and religious groups with Boy Scout troops)

This does not stop other Girl Scouts, standing around and next to a godless/alternative belief individual, from reciting the Promise as it is written above. In this respect, the much-maligned “godless” Girl Scouts is actually more traditional and tolerant, than the public schools where “God” by any name may not be mentioned

23 posted on 03/16/2010 8:59:56 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Congress is America's only native criminal class."- Mark Twain)
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