Insurance companies' love of Obamacare

WND ^ | 3-18-2010 | michael master

[bronkburnett]

If you don't believe that insurance companies want this bill, then why are these politicians promoting it when they receive so much money from insurance companies?

According to statistics maintained by the Center for Responsive Politics, in the 2010 mid-term elections, Democrats have drawn 55 percent of insurance-related contributions, compared with 45 percent for Republicans.

The top three Senate recipients for insurance industry contributions – all Democrats – are Sens. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Harry Reid, D-Nev., according to the Center's research. And in the House, it's another trio of Democrats: Reps. Melissa Bean, D-Ill., Earl Pomeroy, D-N.D., and Barney Frank, D-Mass.

According to the Wall Street Journal of April 30, 2007, Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer received a combined total of $2.4 million from the insurance companies.

The Center for Responsive Politics shows that President Obama received a staggering $20,175,303 from the health-care industry during the 2008 election cycle, nearly three times the amount of his presidential rival, John McCain.

[bronkburnett]

Americans are being conned. Obama and the insurance companies are putting on a show. While they act like they are at odds with each other about this "insurance" legislation, they are in agreement about it as Democrats and insurance companies con America.

Just like the bail outs of banks, AIG, and Wall Street, Democrats are doing the bidding of insurance companies to the detriment of we the people ... we the tax payers.

American patriots need to take to the streets to end it.

[bt579]

Why would insurance cos support something that will eventually put them out of business ( single payer in the future) ??????

[texteacher]

“Why would insurance cos support something that will eventually put them out of business ( single payer in the future) ??????”

I have pondered your question, myself. I think they believe they can get the benefit, “everyone must have insurance” and obtain changes which would put them under.

On the other hand, I do remember Hitler initially had the support of industry and churches.

[mo]

The insurance companies will make more form the government for contracting and “administrating” the “plan” than the ever could from selling policies. Basically the Feds will pay them to build the walls that keep us out of the system.

[C19fan]

Just ask the industrial leaders who supported Hitler.

[GailA]

Especially the traitors AARP!

This is from a 2007 contact list of congressional aides. Some might not be there any longer, but worth a try. The ones on the one post are senate aides, a few have bounced back, it’s worth the effort to clog up their email system along with the phones, and 1/3rd of these senators are up for re-election.

Contact congressional aides.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857768/posts
U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep
Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Toll free to the US Senate:
1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)
Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.THEY ARE ANSWERING THEIR LOCAL NUMBERS

Here is one of the ones Rush gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!
Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762

Good idea from the bloggers at Hillbuzz:
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/03/17/action-items-march-17th-2010/

They offer specifics and links on how to put pressure on Dem DONORS, who have private numbers for legislators who may have taken their phones off the hook.
Congress may not want to hear from us, but they’ll listen to the money men.

KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE

CODE RED Contact list http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/targets/
Remember they are all being offered BRIBES for their votes. Ask them how much their bribe price is.
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

New FLIPPERS
Dennis Kucinish, Lakewood 216)228-8850, Fax (216)228-6465,
Parma. 440)845-2707, Fax (440)845-2743, DC (202)225-5871
Dennis Cardoza DC (202) 225-6131, Fax: 225-0819, 800-356-6424, Merced, (209) 383-4455 Fax: 726-1065 Modesto 209) 527-1914 Fax: 527-5748 Modesto, (209) 527-1914
Fax: 527-5748
Jim Costa Fresno 559-495-1620, Fax:559-495-1027, Bakersfeld, 661-869-1620 Fax: 661-869-1027 DC Phone:202-225-3341 Fax: 202-225-9308
Fax (202)225-5745
James Oberstar (202) 225-6211, Duluth (218) 727-7474,

Chisholm (218) 254-5761, Brainerd (218) 828-4400, North Branch, (651) 277-1234
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
John Boccieri (D), Ohio Voted Yes on Stupak, NO on Health Care.Contact info - DC office (202) 225-3876 - Fax - (202) 225-3059 (330) 489-4414, Local Fax - (330) 489-4448
Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts
Congressional Dems on Twitter

http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter
And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.

At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!

1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351

[DesertRhino]

And this also explains something else. If the insurance companies are so against Obamacare,,then why have so many raised their rates by shocking amounts, during the very month that Obamacare is being considered?

Their action besically “proves” the “crisis”, and helps to ensure it passes. It doesn’t pass the straight face test.

[Republic of Texas]

They are supporting their own demise. Even if they have a role somehow in the administration of health care, they will still be vassals of the government.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Vassals lived pretty good. The serfs, not so much.

[Buckeye McFrog]

yeah, well, joke’s on them....we will have public option within five years and single payer within twenty...otherwise Kucinich would not be voting yea

[dragnet2]

If you don't believe that insurance companies want this bill, then why are these politicians promoting it when they receive so much money from insurance companies?

Democrats have drawn 55 percent of insurance-related contributions, compared with 45 percent for Republicans.

Would not surprise me one bit...I trust insurance companies as much as I do government.

[Republic of Texas]

Is this what we have to look forward to, being a well paid slave?

[Eva]

The insurance companies don’t think that this will put them out of business. They think that they will be managing the single payer government insurance, much the way they manage the insurance for large companies who self insure.

What actually happens is that he insurance companies slow down the payments to doctors and hospitals and make a profit on the money while it is in their hands. Aetna seems to be particularly good at this.

This is pure fascism. You will see favored insurers rise to the top and the small more efficient insurers will be driven out of business. The Obama administration is working on this type of fascistic relationship in all industries. BP seems to be their favored partner in the oil industry.

[SoCal Pubbie]

No we don’t. The aristocracy does though.

[dr_lew]

ding ding ding ding ding ding!

“I for one welcome our new insect overlords.”

[Oceander]

Of course they do, because it will mean guaranteed customers for life, with no competition. The fact of the matter is, most insurance companies don't make a profit on gross sales, they make a profit on the net left over - the "fee" if you will, for providing an intermediation service (assisting two strangers to transfer funds amongst themselves) just the same way that banks make money on the few basis points of difference between the rate at which they borrow money and the rate at which they lend it back out. For your typical insurance executive, Obastardcare means a guarantee of very high sales volume, and no competitive pressure to reduce prices, which means that the net margins will have no pressures to prevent them from expanding - other than those from the political overlords, but they can be easily bought off - as they have been (all socialists end up becoming corporatists, because they get captured by those with the lucre to pay them off) - all of which means that the pay packets of insurance executives will balloon out of control under Obastardcare, and as those prices go sky-high, we will end up paying the bill as the fascists in the government in charge of rationing our healthcare will clamp down harder and harder, imposing more and more draconian limits on our ability to get even basic healthcare and keep ourselves from dying prematurely.

[jonrick46]

If they wanted to keep the money of big business from mounting a political campaign against Zer0’s policies, all they have to do is throw out money incentives to keep them quiet. I think this tactic is at play.