Note the walking-distance metro stop. Park anywhere and ride the metro in.
Or drive around the Capitol and gridlock traffic while honking thousand of car horns.
Posted on 03/19/2010 5:06:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
Americans may still be spared the pain of ObamaCare.
At the time of writing, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi doesn’t have enough votes to pass the Senate’s version of health “reform.” So some House liberals are considering a trick that would allow them to pass a “rule” that says their bill passed without actually having a vote in the House on that bill.
It’s not a sign of strength when a bill’s supporters are already searching for plausible deniability -- when they’re aiming to pass a bill yet campaign that they didn’t vote for it. Remember how well John Kerry’s hair-splitting claim, “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it” played on the trail.
Clearly, many House liberals realize their bill is overwhelmingly unpopular. So how did it get to this point? One man wants to credit (or blame) FOX News.
“After 14 months of Fox’s relentless pounding of President Obama’s idea of sweeping reform, the latest Gallup poll shows opinion running 48 to 45 percent against the current legislation,” wrote Howell Raines in the Outlook section of The Washington Post. Raines, former executive editor of The New York Times, claims this pressure has moved mountains.
“The American people and many of our great modern presidents have been demanding major reforms to the health-care system since the administration of Teddy Roosevelt,” he writes. Yet what we’re seeing today is “a matter of Fox turning reality on its head with, among other tactics, its endless repetition of its uber-lie: ‘The American people do not want health-care reform.’”
Well, first, opposition is no lie.
Every credible poll shows ObamaCare is underwater with Americans. And support has been steadily eroding as the process has gone on. It seems reasonable to assume that’s because people have had time to find out what’s in the bill and what it might cost, and they’re trending against it. No wonder Obama keeps setting false deadlines and claiming we need reform, “right now!”
Second, it’s amazing to claim that FOX News, which has about 2.6 million viewers in prime time, has somehow swayed the opinions of 297 million Americans who didn’t watch it. That’s effective messaging.
Meanwhile, as FOX has (in Raines’ view) been working against the president, it’s also carried his countless addresses live. Obama can not only go over the heads of FOX News executives, he can co-opt their equipment and use it to deliver his message whenever he schedules a joint address to Congress, a prime time news conference, a campaign-style event in Ohio, and so forth. And he’s only lost support when he’s done so.
Raines seems confused on an important point: While Americans may well want “reform,” they don’t want “ObamaCare.” They like bits of the bill, but oppose the scope and expense when all those pieces are stitched together.
Consider it this way: As a Washington Capitals fan, I’m a big fan of Alex Ovechkin. Yet I was rooting against him in the Olympics when he played for Russia. My support for a single player didn’t translate into support for his entire team.
Finally, Raines writes that FOX News “has sold a falsified image of the professional standards that developed in American newsrooms and university journalism departments in the last half of the 20th century.” He’d apparently like to see the network behave more like his beloved former employer, the Times.
Here’s how that paper’s Sunday magazine framed a recent question to Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wisc.: “Your ‘Road Map,’ we should explain, is a somewhat alarming document that proposes, in 600-plus pages, erasing the federal deficit by radically restricting the government’s role in social programs like Social Security and Medicare.”
Ryan’s draft is a comprehensive plan to deal with America’s fiscal crisis. Indeed, it calls for big changes to federal entitlement programs. But the fact is that these programs are going to change, no matter what happens. Our government is simply making trillions of dollar’s worth of promises it can’t afford to keep.
It would be better to do things the way Ryan wants to -- make changes to the programs now and change their course -- rather than wait until they run out of money and the federal government has to revoke the benefits it’s promised.
What is truly “somewhat alarming” is listening to the president go on FOX News and attempt to explain a health care plan when even he isn’t certain what’s in it. The more we learn about the bill -- on FOX and elsewhere -- the less we like it. It will be interesting to see if lawmakers can grasp that.
Note the walking-distance metro stop. Park anywhere and ride the metro in.
Or drive around the Capitol and gridlock traffic while honking thousand of car horns.
What I find hard to comprehend is that these Democrats think that by voting for the Senate bill through a tricky parliamentary procedure somehow it will hurt them less politically. Are there dum Americans out there that actually won’t get it?!
No, it is the exact bill the Senate voted on on Christmas Eve that the House will be approving, Louisiana purchase, etc. The bill eliminating those things is attached and would have to be approved by the Senate. HOld your breath.
As I was saying, if they thumb their nose at the rules and tell lies to get the ‘plan’ passed, what makes anyone think the plan will be administered honorably or efficiently?
Hmmm. Good point. I suppose that remains to be seen.
There might be a few dumb ones hiding here and there... how would we know for sure?
< / jesfunninwitya >
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That really doesn’t answer my question because if the Democrats think they’ll steal the next election with Soros’ help, why the tricky procedure? Also, to steal it, it has to be close and I believe the Democrats are going to be slapped upside the head in November...not close.
I’m not referring to dum liberals...that’s a given. I’m talking about the pool of people against this bill.
Well, if this bill passes, I will feel like the current congress has forcibly raped and sodomized every taxpayer in the country. I have never felt so ashamed of this country.
To me it explains a lot about why so many Dims are voting lemming-like on Obama's HellCare.
They know that campaign money will be in short supply in their next elections. They know the power of political advertising and having the means to pay for it. They know that Soros money and left-wing organizations money will be cut off to them if they don't vote correctly. They know the short memory-span of their voters.
Therefore, they're willing to gamble on casting a wildly-unpopular vote while selling out their country at the same time.
I hope everyone reads the link to this stunning article you provided above.
Leni
The people have spoken and ARE speaking, loud and clear, that they do NOT WANT THIS BILL.
Hussein’s cultists better not ignore them.
“Are there dum Americans out there that actually won’t get it?!”
Yes, many Americans are extremely dumb. Many Americans just want this stuff to go away so they can concentrate on American Idol, March Madness, etc.
Bret Baier for President!
If you can’t go to DC, then go to their local offices, or hold street corner rallies. Be sure to put your signs on sticks you can then rest on, hands will cramp. Take photos, call media, talk radio, program them into your phones. Take a supply of magic markers, and a bull horn if you have access to one. Hit the Medicare cut & gut theme..nothing like mad grannies and gramps. VA Cuts, taxes on special needs kids...35 new taxes.
Pass it on! There is $500 BILLION in Cuts to Medicare, SS, Huge fees for Tricare for Life, the over 65 retired Military’s health ins. 8% cuts to Medicare benefits, 15% cuts to nursing homes, cuts to in home nursing care of Medicare patients. 35 NEW taxes to be collected for 4 years BEFORE the health care promised goes into effect! Even a tax on Special Needs Kids, like Jerry’s Kids.
Call all your Reps today.........raise as much noise about the Medicare cut & Gut to give illegals FREE health care and our jobs as you can...it’s CRUNCH TIME to save the soul of America. He’s now promising LaRaza free health care for illegals and more jobs.
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan
http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Repeal Obamacare? Unlikely
OBAMA PROPOSAL THREATENS TO DENY SENIOR CITIZENS ABILITY TO USE OWN MONEY TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES
http://www.nrlc.org/press_releases_new/Release022210b.html
http://townhall.com/columnists/DavidHarsanyi/2010/03/10/repeal_obamacare_unlikely
Obama spent last week campaigning for health care reform, at one point getting some college-age fans worked up about all the free stuff — “free” preventive care and “free” checkups and so forth — they would receive if his version of health care reform passed.
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
Walgreens: no new Medicaid patients as of April 16
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011367936_walgreens18m.html
Survey in New England Journal of Medicine Says 46% of US Doctors Will Quit If Obamacare Passes
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2798380/shocking_survey_in_new_england_journal.html?cat=75
CBO: Obamacare Would Cost Over $2 Trillion
Weekly Standard ^ | March 18, 2010 | Jeffrey Anderson
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:02:44 PM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbo-obamacare-would-cost-over-2-trillion
The numbers are also listed on Rush’s page.
Here is one of the ones he gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!
Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762
They may have busied it out, or we overloaded it. Regular numbers are busy too.
U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep
Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Toll free to the US Senate:
1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)
Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!
Defeat Obamacare call list: Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.THEY ARE ANSWERING THEIR LOCAL NUMBERS
Here is one of the ones Rush gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!
Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762
KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE
CODE RED Contact list http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/targets/
Remember they are all being offered BRIBES for their votes. Ask them how much their bribe price is.
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
RUSH says to pressure these 2
Charles Wilson, Ohio Toll Free Number 888-706-1833 DC (202) 225-5705 fx: (202) 225-5907, Bridgeport, (740) 633-5705 fx: (740) 633-5727, Canfield, (330) 533-7250 fx: (330) 533-7136 Marietta, : (740) 376-0868 fx: (740) 376-0886 Ironton, (740) 533-9423 fx: (740) 533-9359 Wellsville, 330) 532-3740
Joe Cao DC (202) 225-6636 Fax: (202) 225-1988, NO (504) 483-2325 Fax: (504) 483-7944
New FLIPPERS
Rep. Bart Gordon TN 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986, 931-528-5907, 615-451-5174
Mark Schauer D.C. (202) 225-6276 Fax: (202) 225-6281 Jackson, MI (517) 780-9075
Fax: (517) 780-9081 Toll-Free: (877) 737-6407
Dennis Kucinish, Lakewood 216)228-8850, Fax (216)228-6465,
Parma. 440)845-2707, Fax (440)845-2743, DC (202)225-5871
Dennis Cardoza DC (202) 225-6131, Fax: 225-0819, 800-356-6424, Merced, (209) 383-4455 Fax: 726-1065 Modesto 209) 527-1914 Fax: 527-5748 Modesto, (209) 527-1914
Fax: 527-5748
Jim Costa Fresno 559-495-1620, Fax:559-495-1027, Bakersfeld, 661-869-1620 Fax: 661-869-1027 DC Phone:202-225-3341 Fax: 202-225-9308 Fax (202)225-5745
James Oberstar MN (202) 225-6211, Duluth (218) 727-7474, Chisholm (218) 254-5761, Brainerd (218) 828-4400, North Branch, (651) 277-1234
Gabrielle Giffords AZ (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 8th District
John Boccieri (D), Ohio Voted Yes on Stupak, NO on Health Care.Contact info - DC office (202) 225-3876 - Fax - (202) 225-3059 (330) 489-4414, Local Fax - (330) 489-4448
Betsy Markey DC 202.225.4676, fx. 202.225.5870, Ft. Collins, 970.221.7110fx 970.221.7240, Greeley, 970.351.6007 fx 970.351.6068, Lamar, 719.931.4003
fx 719.931.4005, Sterling, 970.522.0203 fx 970.522.1783
rec’d from NCTeaParty.com — Despite earlier assurances that he was a NO on health care reform and would not change his mind, Rep. Heath Shuler, NC 11, is now undecided.
Rep. Heath Shuler, North Carolina 11th
http://shuler.house.gov/ DC Office Number: (202) 225-6401, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-6422 Local Office Number: (828) 252-1651, Local Fax Number: (828) 252-8734 Chief of Staff: Hayden Rogers email: hayden.rogers@mail.house.gov
Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)
Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter
And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.
At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.
When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!
We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!
1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351
He is one that Rush said to call.....the woman who answered phone was very nice.
The people I know that support this are driven by one overriding reason -
they don’t want to have to make insurance/healthcare decisions for themselves.
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