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Repost: Cass Sunstein Advocates for Removal of People's Organs Without Explicit Consent
NetRight Nation ^ | September 4, 2009 | Adam Bitely

Posted on 03/19/2010 12:53:19 PM PDT by combat_boots

Oldie but goodie from 9/4/09

For the last couple of weeks we have been blasting Cass Sunstein on this blog. Many of you have also picked up the sword and begun fighting this Obama appointment as well.

Now, we need to really stand up. The Senate will be coming back into session next week and Harry Reid has already mentioned that he wants to make confirming Sunstein one of his first priorities. We CANNOT let this happen.

Check out this story today on Sunstein from Matt Cover at CNS News. If this doesn't make you pick up a phone and call your Senator, I don't know what will. We need to be blasting this information to all corners of the internet.

PLEASE WRITE TO YOUR SENATOR NOW TO STOP CASS SUNSTEIN. http://www.capwiz.com/libertyleaders/issues/alert/?alertid=13971556&type=ML

Here is the story from Mr. Cover at CNS News titled OBAMA REGULATION CZAR ADVOCATED REMOVING PEOPLE'S ORGANS WITHOUT EXPLICIT CONSENT:

Cass Sunstein, President Barack Obama’s nominee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), has advocated a policy under which the government would “presume” someone has consented to having his or her organs removed for transplantation into someone else when they die unless that person has explicitly indicated that his or her organs should not be taken.

Under such a policy, hospitals would harvest organs from people who never gave permission for this to be done.

Outlined in the 2008 book “Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness,” Sunstein and co-author Richard H. Thaler argued that the main reason that more people do not donate their organs is because they are required to choose donation.

Sunstein and Thaler pointed out that doctors often must ask the deceased’s family members whether or not their dead relative would have wanted to donate his organs. These family members usually err on the side of caution and refuse to donate their loved one’s organs. “The major obstacle to increasing [organ] donations is the need to get the consent of surviving family members,” said Sunstein and Thaler.

This problem could be remedied if governments changed the laws for organ donation, they said. Currently, unless a patient has explicitly chosen to be an organ donor, either on his driver’s license or with a donor card, the doctors assume that the person did not want to donate and therefore do not harvest his organs. Thaler and Sunstein called this “explicit consent.”

They argued that this could be remedied if government turned the law around and assumed that, unless people explicitly choose not to, then they want to donate their organs – a doctrine they call “presumed consent.”

“Presumed consent preserves freedom of choice, but it is different from explicit consent because it shifts the default rule. Under this policy, all citizens would be presumed to be consenting donors, but they would have the opportunity to register their unwillingness to donate,” they explained.

The difference between explicit and presumed consent is that under presumed consent, many more people “choose” to be organ donors. Sunstein and Thaler noted that in a 2003 study only 42 percent of people actively chose to be organ donors, while only 18 percent actively opted out when their consent was presumed.

In cases where the deceased’s wishes are unclear, Sunstein and Thaler argued that a “presumed consent” system would make it easier for doctors to convince families to donate their loved one’s organs.

Citing a 2006 study, Thaler and Sunstein wrote: “The next of kin can be approached quite differently when the decedent’s silence is presumed to indicate a decision to donate rather than when it is presumed to indicate a decision not to donate. This shift may make it easier for the family to accept organ donation.”

The problem of the deceased’s family is only one issue, Sunstein and Thaler said, admitting that turning the idea of choice on its head will invariably run into major political problems, but these are problems they say the government can solve through a system of “mandated choice.”

“Another [problem] is that it is a hard sell politically,” wrote Sunstein and Thaler. “More than a few people object to the idea of ‘presuming’ anything when it comes to such a sensitive matter. For these reasons we think that the best choice architecture for organ donations is mandated choice.”

Mandated choice is a process where government forces you to make a decision – in this case, whether to opt out of being an organ donor to get something you need, such as a driver’s license.

“With mandated choice, renewal of your driver’s license would be accompanied by a requirement that you check a box stating your organ donation preferences,” the authors stated. “Your application would not be accepted unless you had checked one of the boxes.”

To ensure that people’s decisions align with the government policy of more organ donors, Sunstein and Thaler counseled that governments should follow the state of Illinois’ example and try to influence people by making organ donation seem popular.

“First, the state stresses the importance of the overall problem (97,000 people [in Illinois] on the waiting list and then brings the problem home, literally (4,700 in Illinois),” they wrote.

“Second, social norms are directly brought into play in a way that build on the power of social influences [peer pressure]: ‘87 percent of adults in Illinois feel that registering as an organ donor is the right thing to do’ and ’60 percent of adults in Illinois are registered,’” they added.

Sunstein and Thaler reminded policymakers that people will generally do what they think others are doing and what they believe others think is right. These presumptions, which almost everyone has, act as powerful factors as policymakers seek to design choices.

“Recall that people like to do what most people think is right to do; recall too that people like to do what most people actually do,” they wrote. “The state is enlisting existing norms in the direction of lifestyle choices.”

Thaler and Sunstein believed that this and other policies are necessary because people don’t really make the best decisions.

“The false assumption is that almost all people, almost all of the time, make choices that are in their best interest or at the very least are better than the choices that would be made [for them] by someone else,” they said.

This means that government “incentives and nudges” should replace “requirements and bans,” they argued.

Neither Sunstein nor Thaler currently are commenting on their book, a spokesman for the publisher, Penguin Group, told CNSNews.com.

In a question-and-answer section on the Amazon.com Web site, Thaler and Sunstein answered a few questions about their book.

When asked what the title “Nudge” means and why people need to be nudged, the authors stated: “By a nudge we mean anything that influences our choices. A school cafeteria might try to nudge kids toward good diets by putting the healthiest foods at front.

“We think that it's time for institutions, including government, to become much more user-friendly by enlisting the science of choice to make life easier for people and by gently nudging them in directions that will make their lives better,” they wrote.

“…The human brain is amazing, but it evolved for specific purposes, such as avoiding predators and finding food,” said Thaler and Sunstein. “Those purposes do not include choosing good credit card plans, reducing harmful pollution, avoiding fatty foods, and planning for a decade or so from now. Fortunately, a few nudges can help a lot. …”


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; obamacare; organharvesting; prolife; sunstein
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1 posted on 03/19/2010 12:53:19 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots

Sick. Against informed consent. Unethical.

Typical of Democrats, Marxists, and the
Obama-Nation courtesy of Hawaii, Kenya and the DNC.


2 posted on 03/19/2010 12:58:05 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: combat_boots

The people advocate the removal of Sunstein’s organ(s).


3 posted on 03/19/2010 12:58:50 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: combat_boots

Any fool that takes the organs of one of my loved ones, WITHOUT EXPLICIT CONSENT, may have very well forfeited their own.


4 posted on 03/19/2010 12:58:53 PM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: combat_boots

This is a fascist and would be dictator. Can a senator put a HOLD on the appointment? Has it already been done?


5 posted on 03/19/2010 1:00:26 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: combat_boots
This mirrors well with the Dr. Zeke Emanuel death curve.


6 posted on 03/19/2010 1:00:30 PM PDT by 444Flyer (America, we are being waterboarded by Obama and his minions.)
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To: combat_boots

I am an organ donor. But if they pull something like this, they can kiss my kidneys goodbye.


7 posted on 03/19/2010 1:01:25 PM PDT by Siouxz
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To: combat_boots

So the Progressives can have dinner?


8 posted on 03/19/2010 1:01:57 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: combat_boots
"Cass Sunstein, President Barack Obama’s nominee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), has advocated a policy under which the government would “presume” someone has consented to having his or her organs removed for transplantation into someone else when they die unless that person has explicitly indicated that his or her organs should not be taken. Under such a policy, hospitals would harvest organs from people who never gave permission for this to be done."

This is a joke, right? Please tell me this has not even being considered. While I am an organ donor, NO ONE should ever be required to donate. Let's see what Snopes says about this. I can't believe this is real.

If so, the game is on...

9 posted on 03/19/2010 1:02:03 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; narses; Coleus; neverdem

Ping.


10 posted on 03/19/2010 1:02:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: beethovenfan

How about amputating his head?


11 posted on 03/19/2010 1:03:13 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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And, add this...

The Reid Bill contains important elements that would greatly impact the ability of patients to receive unrationed medical care. These elements, combined with inadequate funding – a scheme of “robbing Peter to pay Paul” wherein half of the funding comes from cuts in Medicare spending, would result in rationing life-saving treatment for senior citizens.

Limiting Senior Citizens’ Right to Use Their Own Money to Save Their Own Lives
Limiting Exchange Users’ Right to Use Their Own Money to Save Their Own Lives
“Shared Decisionmaking” – Advance Care Planning By Another Name?
The Medicare Commission
Assisted Suicide Funding?
The Secretary and Quality Discretion
Notes

“Limiting Senior Citizens’ Right to Use Their Own Money to Save Their Own Lives”

“The Reid bill duplicates the House bill provision that would effectively allow federal bureaucrats at the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services (CMS) to bar senior citizens from adding their own money, if they choose, to the government contribution in order to get private-fee-for-service Medicare Advantage (MA) plans less likely to ration life-saving treatment.”

http://www.nrlc.org/HealthcareRationing/ReidSubstitute.html


12 posted on 03/19/2010 1:05:29 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

Hey, I'm not dead!.......

Yes, you are!.............

13 posted on 03/19/2010 1:05:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I don’t think Sunstein is a Secretary, but, rather, a ‘czar.’


14 posted on 03/19/2010 1:07:19 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: A Navy Vet

I found this on snopes so far. Chilling to read.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/emergent/donor.asp

There’s this about a similar thing for Illinois.
http://americandaily.com/index.php/article/3233

And then there’s this group advocating for it....

The Presumed Consent Foundation, Inc.
http://www.presumedconsent.org/solutions.htm


15 posted on 03/19/2010 1:08:48 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: combat_boots; 185JHP; 230FMJ; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; ...
Moral Absolutes Ping!

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16 posted on 03/19/2010 1:08:59 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Red Badger
Cass Sustein

is...


17 posted on 03/19/2010 1:09:49 PM PDT by 444Flyer (America, we are being waterboarded by Obama and his minions.)
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To: wagglebee

IBTDB


18 posted on 03/19/2010 1:11:53 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: combat_boots

This reminds me of a comedy skit by (I think) those hilarious Brits, can’t remember their name but a knock at the door and a voice announces that they have come for the husbands liver. The wife says that her husband is still alive but that doesn’t seem to matter, they want his liver anyway. Comedy becomes reality.


19 posted on 03/19/2010 1:12:43 PM PDT by Ditter
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bump!


20 posted on 03/19/2010 1:12:46 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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