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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Jim Robinson; kristinn; onyx; STARWISE; holdonnow; Dog; penelopesire; Bahbah; AliVeritas; ...

Here we go...

DeLay says Pelosi is in a box!!!


2 posted on 03/20/2010 7:10:34 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

http://thehayride.com/2010/03/no-bill-no-cbo-numbers-bad-sign-for-obamacare/

Obamacare Death Watch (Update #96)
Posted on March 20th, 2010 by Ryan Booth Submit We’ll be updating this entry all weekend. Follow us on Twitter for notifications of the latest updates.

Update 3-20, 8:55 AM: As I predicted last night, prospects for a Stupak deal appear to be collapsing. I’m putting the word “death” back in the thread title — shame on me for taking it out.

Update 3-20, 8:00 AM: Stupak was right. Back on Wednesday, he told The Hill in an interview:

“They’ll call me the night before and say, ‘Hey, we’ve got to work this out. We don’t have the votes,’” he said. “Then we get serious.”


3 posted on 03/20/2010 7:11:03 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: SE Mom

Members in Question [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Stupak swingers at the moment appear to be: Kaptur of Ohio, Berry of Arkansas, Cueller of Texas, and Rahall of West Virginia.

If you live in any one of these districts, you might want to buck your representative up.

UPDATE: With #s:

Berry (202) 225-4076

Cueller 202-225-1640

Kaptur(202) 225-4146

Rahall (202) 225-3452


4 posted on 03/20/2010 7:11:52 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

Says that if it is 215-215 the bill is dead.


5 posted on 03/20/2010 7:12:46 AM PDT by NoobRep
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To: SE Mom

Thank you for posting this! I need sanity support! Big time!


6 posted on 03/20/2010 7:13:09 AM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea
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To: SE Mom

Hose Rules Cmte LIVE STREAMING http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx


7 posted on 03/20/2010 7:13:15 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: SE Mom
I would like to think Stupak won't cave but I'm a firm believer that everyone has their price.
8 posted on 03/20/2010 7:13:39 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: NoobRep

@PeteSessions: Will tweet live updates on #HCR bill debate in our House Rules Committee meeting starting @ 10am ET. #GOP #TCOT

http://twitter.com/PeteSessions


9 posted on 03/20/2010 7:13:46 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: NoobRep

Thoughts on Stupak? Why the presser?


10 posted on 03/20/2010 7:13:46 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: MarkLevinFan; Fudd Fan; tiredoflaundry

Cavuto is live today- he’ll have Mark Levin on this hour to discuss the suit Landmark Legal Foundation will bring immediately IF this goes through.

http://www.landmarklegal.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=7


11 posted on 03/20/2010 7:13:50 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

Well here we go. I feel like I’m living in Zimbabwe.

Barton saying we are about to unleash a cultural war in this country if you do this demon pass.

He is right about that.


12 posted on 03/20/2010 7:14:09 AM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: SE Mom
A guy on FX Business just said that the ‘abortion compromise’ was dead and the ‘path to 216 [yes]’ was not there.
13 posted on 03/20/2010 7:14:23 AM PDT by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: SE Mom
NY NOW President Marcia Pappas to Women in Congress: Make History and Walk Out
By: Jane Hamsher Saturday March 20, 2010 6:00 am

Pro-choice members of the House are in revolt, threatening to kill the health care bill after Nancy Pelosi agreed to give Bart Stupak a vote on a concurrent resolution which would tie his language on abortion to the Senate bill and substitute it for the Nelson language.

Marcia Pappas, President of New York Now, released an open letter encouraging the women in Congress to oppose the deal:

March 19, 2010

An open letter to every woman in Congress:

Today, women in the United States are fighting for their lives. You must fight too! A woman’s right to have safe and legal abortion is about to be traded away.

We are asking all of you fight like you have never fought before. Tonight, It has become clear that the our Democratic President Obama, Democratic Speaker of the House (Nancy Pelosi) and Democratic Leader (Harry Reid) are trading away women’s lives.

Every woman in Congress should MAKE HISTORY AND WALK OUT ! This is your chance to stand up for what is right! Forget politics, forget saving your seat! You must take a chance!

If you sit back and allow the passage of the health care bill with “Stupak,” women in America will not vote for another Democrat…..myself included. Because there will essentially be no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans.

What will it be? Will you all go down in history following the boys, or will you finally stand up for what is right? It’s up to all of you. We elected you because we believed that having women at the table would make a difference. Don’t let us down.

Marcia A. Pappas
President
NOW NYS

According to The Hill, “were the resolution to pass the House, it would instruct the Senate clerk to change the healthcare bill to reflect Stupak’s more restrictive language to prohibit federal dollars from going toward abortion coverage.”

There were 41 members of Congress who signed Diana DeGette’s letter saying “we will not vote for a conference report that contains language that restricts women’s right to choose any further than current law.” Although the language in the Senate bill most certainly goes way beyond current law, the members have thus far stayed silent and DeGette has not released the names on the letter.

Jan Schakowsky, Mike Capuano, Mike Quigley, Carolyn Maloney, Judy Chu and Louise Slaughter have publicly said that they signed the letter. Betsy Markey and Anne Kirkpatrick are also signatories.

As I mentioned this morning, abortion would not be an issue in the “Plan B” alternative that the White House was contemplating three weeks ago, which would evidently expand existing programs — Medicaid and SCHIP. It would cover half the people at a quarter of the price, but it would not include the politically toxic mandate that threatens to trigger nationwide opposition in the form of 2010 ballot amendments. Because it creates no new infrastructure for the purpose of funneling money to private insurance companies, there is no need for either Bart Stupak’s or Ben Nelson’s language dealing with abortion — which satisfies the concerns of both pro-choice and anti-choice members of Congress.

Both programs are already covered under existing law, the Hyde amendment.

firedoglake.com

14 posted on 03/20/2010 7:14:37 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: SE Mom

Good...close the lid and ship it to Siberia.


15 posted on 03/20/2010 7:14:43 AM PDT by madison10 (If my people who are called by My Name will humble themselves and pray, then I will hear from heaven)
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To: SE Mom

Stupak is the Dems “fly in the ointment.” Unless Pelosi decided to compromise and meet the demands of Stupak last night, his press conference will be about why he is voting “NO” and what the Democrats can do to get him to “YES.”

Stupak will be the American people’s hero at the end of this.


16 posted on 03/20/2010 7:14:44 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: SE Mom

Is Mark Levin going to protest? He went to first one, right?


17 posted on 03/20/2010 7:15:04 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: SE Mom

Kat Jean Lopez posted on the NRO Corner this morning that the pro-aborts and feminists are bristling at the Stupak deal depending on the sequence of votes.


18 posted on 03/20/2010 7:15:42 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: Sea2ShiningSea

You’re not alone FRiend :)


19 posted on 03/20/2010 7:15:51 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

Did Fox & Friends say that the had 217 yes votes this morning?


20 posted on 03/20/2010 7:16:04 AM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: Perdogg

That is consistent with what Lopez reported on The Corner.


21 posted on 03/20/2010 7:16:24 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: SE Mom

Marcy Kaptur must want a deal. They’ve been running ads here on talk radio station asking people to call and tell her to vote “no.”


22 posted on 03/20/2010 7:17:01 AM PDT by madison10 (If my people who are called by My Name will humble themselves and pray, then I will hear from heaven)
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To: SE Mom

Great idea, thanks for starting this. I was hoping for one thread where I could check throughout the day.


23 posted on 03/20/2010 7:17:03 AM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy freedom & liberty!)
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To: Perdogg

Awesome- I’m crossing my eyes, toes, fingers and heart!

The momentum seems to shift a bit?


24 posted on 03/20/2010 7:18:35 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

Thxs Mom for the ping!


25 posted on 03/20/2010 7:18:38 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced.)
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To: CriticalJ

Fox ahd an article on their site yesterday that said yes they had 216, BUT it was an AP article, and used fuzzy math (many assumptions, faulty assumptions IMO).


26 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:14 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: CriticalJ

Yes they did so they know about as much as we!


27 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:38 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: SE Mom

Thanks for the ray of sunshine and the thread.


28 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:47 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: jenk
TGO will be on soon with Cavuto-Fox News.
29 posted on 03/20/2010 7:19:53 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: SE Mom

Bump

THe next day is going to be hell.


30 posted on 03/20/2010 7:20:05 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: NoobRep

Did I hear him end the interview saying he believes Pelosi will pull this out?


31 posted on 03/20/2010 7:20:28 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: TornadoAlley3

If anti-abortion language is not in the Senate bill, how can any kind of concession be made to the Senate bill before the House, to include new language?


32 posted on 03/20/2010 7:21:06 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: CriticalJ
Did Fox & Friends say that the had 217 yes votes this morning?

It seems to me that their reporting on this has not been responsible.

33 posted on 03/20/2010 7:21:16 AM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: SE Mom

Following this process/issue has been as nerve-wracking as following the recounts when Al Gore tried to steal the election in 2000.

Thanks for posting this. I’ve been checking the status constantly.


34 posted on 03/20/2010 7:21:23 AM PDT by freelancer (If we do not win the war against terrorism, everything else is irrelevant.)
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To: CriticalJ

Yes, they did with Murphy’s switch to yes. I was flipping out. I need tranquilizers!


35 posted on 03/20/2010 7:21:54 AM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea
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To: StarFan

I don’t know who the guy was with Neil just now- but he’s digging in his heels- not happy with the medicare language...


36 posted on 03/20/2010 7:22:03 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

I cry for our America. We have allowed it to taken from us from within. A call to Patriots....


37 posted on 03/20/2010 7:22:25 AM PDT by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: StarFan

No. Delay said Pelosi is “in a box.”


38 posted on 03/20/2010 7:22:37 AM PDT by NoobRep
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To: SE Mom

Please post phone numbers and those of with blackberry type devices can call from the crowd.


39 posted on 03/20/2010 7:22:51 AM PDT by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: Lou L

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/19/the-stupak-amendment-is-back-whats-an-enrollment-corrections-bill/


40 posted on 03/20/2010 7:22:58 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Sometimes I get the feeling around here that abortion of the one sticking point in this entire bill. Well, it’s not. It’s like, if Stupak gets his way, and can then vote for the bill, that it’ll be okay. Total BS! Yes, abortion is a critical factor, but the entire overhaul according to BHO, Pelosi, Reid and their nutjobs is a disaster for America! Stupak is only holding out because of abortion...he and all the rest should be holding out because this is downright wrong on all accounts. Period!


41 posted on 03/20/2010 7:23:32 AM PDT by nfldgirl (Tim Tebow=our real life (Francine Rivers' Redeeming Love...) Michael!)
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To: SE Mom

Gov Rick Perry gave him a phone call:)


42 posted on 03/20/2010 7:23:41 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3; All

Mark Levin on Cavuto Now!


43 posted on 03/20/2010 7:25:16 AM PDT by tropical (One Year Anniversay Smoke Free 03-17-10)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Isn’t this just the Stupak charade all over again? Republicans are afraid to vote against such a move, even though the vote itself has no impact and won’t stop the bill from becoming law. So the panties-in-a-wad feminists don’t have to vote for it, but it passes, which gives the Stupak stooges enough cover to vote the bill into law.


44 posted on 03/20/2010 7:26:27 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TornadoAlley3
Marcia Pappas

Greek Orthodox?

45 posted on 03/20/2010 7:26:30 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Miss Didi

Are you listening to Levin on Cavuto? He’s answering the question you were pondering earlier...


46 posted on 03/20/2010 7:26:46 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: TornadoAlley3

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/19/the-stupak-amendment-is-back-whats-an-enrollment-corrections-bill/

This has been debunked. This author is an Obama hack. Lies and distortion to get the conservative base to feel defeated.


47 posted on 03/20/2010 7:27:07 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: SE Mom

Levin on Cavuto bump!!!


48 posted on 03/20/2010 7:27:16 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SE Mom

Cueller 202-225-1640

User mailbox is full and can’t leave a message.


49 posted on 03/20/2010 7:27:39 AM PDT by Shire
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To: NoobRep
No. Delay said Pelosi is “in a box.”

Then I hope somebody sits on the box....(poke some breathing holes in it....I'm not totally cruel).

50 posted on 03/20/2010 7:28:27 AM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea
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