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Boy Scouts sex files now evidence in Oregon lawsuit
Deseret News ^ | March 20, 2010 | William McCall

Posted on 03/20/2010 8:33:58 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: BenKenobi

Where is “here” that you are? As it were ...


21 posted on 03/20/2010 11:58:04 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of your new alien overlords. You want to be on my good side.)
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To: SandRat

The hypocrisy makes me want to scream sometimes. The people attacking churches or the Scouts for failing to prevent gays from having sex with young boys don’t think there’s anything *wrong* with gays having sex with young boys. The whole point is to defeat the institutions that, as much as humanly possible, keep gays away from young boys.


22 posted on 03/20/2010 12:11:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of your new alien overlords. You want to be on my good side.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Your silence is deafening.

I don't sit in front of FR all day and am just now seeing this. If true, the church leaders should be criminally prosecuted just like any other group. I have zero tolerance for this stuff. Mormon, Catholic, Buddhism, Hindu, don't care.
23 posted on 03/20/2010 3:28:56 PM PDT by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: Tax-chick

Canada. I live in a rural town about 12 hours north of the border.


24 posted on 03/20/2010 4:00:13 PM PDT by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: BenKenobi

Wow, that’s the Far North. Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are completely separate organizations in the US.


25 posted on 03/20/2010 5:08:20 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of your new alien overlords. You want to be on my good side.)
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To: BenKenobi

Canada’s a big place, FRiend. At least name your province, since there’s a >4000 mile stretch that due east-west, so 12 hours north of the border is anywhere from Port Hardy to Goose Bay.


26 posted on 03/20/2010 5:10:34 PM PDT by Don W (I only keep certain folks' numbers in my 'phone so I know NOT to answer when they call)
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To: Don W

I just wanted to know the country.


27 posted on 03/20/2010 5:11:10 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of your new alien overlords. You want to be on my good side.)
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To: Don W

In Prince George, BC. City of 75k. I just spoke with some old friends of mine and they are down to 1 scout troop with maybe 6 kids. That’s it.


28 posted on 03/20/2010 5:22:45 PM PDT by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: BenKenobi

That’s too bad. Some countries have girls and boys in separate troops, but doing the same program. I think that’s a good idea, based on what we’ve seen with Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts. Everyone I know with experience in both organizations thinks the Boy Scouts have the much better program and structure.


29 posted on 03/20/2010 6:23:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of your new alien overlords. You want to be on my good side.)
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To: Tax-chick

Well they still have the Girl Scouts. Inclusion only works one way, in that the Boy Scouts were considered to be the same.

They had them separate when I was there. I was in Scouting for 10 years, and I thought it was a huge mistake to try to put the two together. I remember filling a 500 standing auditorium of kids when they tried to bring all of them together.

To go from 500-6 is a disaster. I had thought it might shrink somewhat, but to that extent? No. And this is just in 15 years or so.


30 posted on 03/20/2010 6:57:51 PM PDT by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: Colofornian

Ok, I’m confused. Why would the BSA be accountable? If there were files they kept on “suspected” adults, and they did not allow those adults to become leaders, why is BSA accountable?

It’s not like they could make accusations without proof for fear of being sued.

The Bishop and this piece of crap need to be held accountable, not the BSA.

The BSA has made many strenuous efforts to protect the boys. They are fought from every angle to allow gays access to the boys.

They can’t win. I suppose that’s the point though.


31 posted on 03/20/2010 8:00:42 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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Girls in the USA can join BSA Venturing, which is typically more “high adventure” related stuff.

But keep in mind, that the Scouting movement in many countries is dictated by the societal norms of that country.

BSA National (USA) has no say so over what Canadian, Nepalese, or European Scouts do. It’s up to each individual organization to decide.

I was told a story from a US Scouter who took his US troop (military dependent kids of service members stationed in Germany) to a European “Jamboree” and the Germans had male and female Scouts bunking together. He had to have an enclosure made for them because the German gals thought nothing of going topless. His boys were a bit upset at the enclosure.

SZ


32 posted on 03/20/2010 8:07:52 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: SZonian

Sounds like the Venturers I know here. They never had a good reputation.


33 posted on 03/20/2010 8:13:05 PM PDT by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: BenKenobi
He wasn't too thrilled to have them next door for that weekend. Had to have a few conversations with their "leaders" about their behavior, which was quite raucous.
34 posted on 03/20/2010 8:19:15 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: SZonian

No doubt. My old scoutmaster folded up our troop rather then go co-ed. He’s a good man.


35 posted on 03/20/2010 10:22:43 PM PDT by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: BenKenobi; SZonian

Venture Crews can be single-sex; I know several girls who have been involved. I don’t think mixed-sex troops of teenagers are a good idea *at all*.


36 posted on 03/21/2010 6:01:18 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Mother of your new alien overlords. You want to be on my good side.)
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To: SZonian

It was a secret list because the men had not been convicted.


37 posted on 03/21/2010 6:03:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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