Posted on 03/21/2010 2:44:33 PM PDT by GOPGuide
Senate Republicans on Sunday said that their Democratic counterparts have ignored requests to meet jointly with the parliamentarian about a potential rule violation that they say could halt the reconciliation healthcare bill.
Republicans say that a provision in the reconciliation packages raises Social Security revenue, thereby violating rules regulating the reconciliation process.
"Republicans have been trying to set up a meeting with Senate Democrats since yesterday to discuss this fatal point of order but have been met with nothing but silence," Don Stewart, spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said in a statement. "We suspect Democrats are slow walking us so as to have the House vote first."
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Republicans say that the Social Security provision breaks a rule that limits changes that can be made to entitlement programs using reconciliation.
Exactly and that will be the LAW sans any reconciliation or presidential order
The ‘Rats are drunk on their deemed power. Let the hangover of the rule of law give them headaches.
So let me get this straight... the GOP was requesting a meeting with the Demorats to discuss a point that could fatally flaw the bill. So why give the bastards the heads up??
Oh c’mon now. You Pubbies forget you’re dealing with Demoncrats and they don’t obey rules, they make their own, they disregard parlimentarianship, they could care less what we think, and they’ll ram anything down our throat, any time, any way.
Why did it take them from Christmas Eve until this afternoon to figure this out? I pray this is a legit concrete wall for this whole “enchilada”.
Unfortunately the donkeys don’t care and just want the senate bill to become law.
Does anyone have these folks on Facebook, leaders? ask em. Im not on Facebook, but I guess its time.
I taped it on my VCR and rewound the tape. This is what I got:
Santorum was just on Fox talking to Greta: “1st they vote on Senate Bill. Then they vote on the reconciliation fix. BUT...1974 BUDGET ACT LAW SAYS IF ANY PROVISIONS IN THE BILL AFFECT SOCIAL SECURITY REVENUES....THE WHOLE BILL BECOMES INVALID FOR RECONCILIATION. NOT JUST THAT PROVISION BUT THE WHOLE BILL FALLS! MCCONNELL IS TRYING TO MEET WITH THE PARLIMENTARIAN TO GET A RULING ON IT BEFORE THE VOTE AND IT IS STILL AN OPEN QUESTION..”
Senate Democrats are purposely trying to screw over House Democrats.
That’s what this comes down to.
They want the House to vote first, and then after 0bama sigs it, they can say “whoops, guess we can’t do reconcilliation after all!” and stick the House with their votes for the Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase.
It’s all very calculated.
This could be the silver bullet!!
Can you expalin in simple English what this means. Does it prevent it from being signed into law or what?
Dems make the rules up as they go along.
Dumb this down to my level (like an idiot I switched off FOX and turned on CSPAN so I missed Santorum).....for some reason or other, the whole Senate bill could be in danger due to this 1974 law? So then if the bill is bad then reconcilliation is moot? When and who determines how to interpret this?
Because if they say it afterwards it will be lost in the juggernaut of MSM euphoria.
If it's a valid point it needs to be brought up before the fact.
I’m not a lawyer but Santorum is saying the Budget act quoted above sinks BOTH the reconciliation bill AND the entire Senate bill and that this is what McConnell is looking at.
“THere apologizing for some freakin racial slurs thats where Steele was this morning.”
Regarding this supposed incident, we’re still waiting for verification that there were slurs. No video, no sound, no evidence, no substantiation. Crickets....
Fine, let them pass it then if it truly is a doomed piece of legislation.
If this is the case, with the law being violated in the passing of this bill -- then this is exactly how a law becomes invalidated in the courts, unless it has some kind of "separability" of clauses in the bill, in which if part of it is invalidated the other parts still go through (that happens with laws in some cases, too).
Is there a "separability" of sections of the bill in which if part of it is invalidated, that other parts still go through?
Any chance the whole dirty deal can be undone at this point? Hard to believe the bad guys would let it happen.
That's what what Santorum said McConnell is looking hard at, the 1974 Budget Act jeopordizes the entire Senate bill, not just the reconciliation.
The change to the “fix” was only “announced” last week. Such is “transparency.”
Heaven protect us from this “Kanye West” administration!
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