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U.S, Mexico eye new phase in drug war
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 3/23/10 | Andrew Quinn

Posted on 03/23/2010 7:21:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promised on Tuesday to help Mexico broaden a drug war that has failed to curb traffickers' increasingly deadly power along the U.S.-Mexican border.

Clinton, leading a top-level U.S. delegation in Mexico City for a day of talks, said it was time to tackle the deeper social issues that fuel the narcotics trade as both nations battle to outmaneuver powerful smuggling organizations.

"These narcotics cartels are waging war on civil society," Clinton told a news conference, pledging that the joint U.S.-Mexican response would not be bound by "borders or bureaucratic divisions."

Clinton said anti-drug efforts must move beyond efforts to disrupt trafficking organizations and seek to strengthen law enforcement agencies, increase economic opportunity and set up a "21st Century border" that can promote security, trade and movement between the two neighbors.

The weight of the delegation -- including Secretary of Defense Bob Gates, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and military Joint Chiefs of Staff chair Admiral Mike Mullen -- underscored Washington's concern over the raging drug violence to the south.

That concern sharpened after the shooting deaths this month of two U.S. citizens in the violent Mexican border city of Ciudad Juarez, ..

The United States is already deeply involved in Mexico's struggle with drug gangs and has pledged some $1.4 billion over three years in a thus-far unsuccessful effort to crush cartels who ship $40 billion worth of illegal drugs north each year.

Mexican critics say the United States has not done enough to help and that aid already pledged has been slow to arrive.

Mexican Foreign Minister Patricia Espinosa said the U.S. team had promised to speed assistance and resolve "bottlenecks that have delayed the delivery of equipment we need."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: clinton; drugcartel; drugwar; gates; hillary; immigration; mexico; thanksmexico; wod

1 posted on 03/23/2010 7:21:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Mexican critics say the United States has not done enough to help and that aid already pledged has been slow to arrive.

“Heelary, chica, where’s the rolling papers you promised?”


2 posted on 03/23/2010 7:24:20 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Clinton Plan - build wider gates and up the speed limit.

The Military Option or The ‘M’ Plan - M16, M1A1, M19, MQ1, MQ1C,....


3 posted on 03/23/2010 7:25:12 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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Clinton said anti-drug efforts must move beyond efforts to disrupt trafficking organizations and seek to strengthen law enforcement agencies, increase economic opportunity and set up a "21st Century border" that can promote security, trade and movement between the two neighbors.

Woo-hoo!!! EU style for the Americas, here we come!!!

4 posted on 03/23/2010 7:31:13 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: NormsRevenge

The border has been amorphous for some time now, and is no border at all. Re establishment of a border at the federal level is not being articulated. The US and Mexican governments are in a war with drug cartels and their world-wide allies including Islamists, the conflict has now extensively engulfed civil-govt. on both sides, and is expanding with a life of its own.

States are on their own with as much interference by the Fed Govt. as they expect in support. Totalitarian-to-be health “care” has started a second front of contention, amnesty is just around the corner, and capntrade is nearing also. The “state of the union” is rapidly deteriorating with the administration circumventing all previous balance of power relationships. November elections seem further away by the minute than time indicates as “national emergency” has a very sensitive hair-trigger.


5 posted on 03/23/2010 7:42:17 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: NormsRevenge

...The war on drugs, another failed policy for 50 years, billions flushed down the gunny, for the sake of a bureaucracy that will never go away, over a handful of drugs, that if were made legal, regulated and taxed, would reduce the deficit and end the war, distraction on Drugs... ...BTW, what about all the other drugs that are LEGAL? Big pharmaceuticals, Big insurance, Big business, Big Government hypocrites that are controlling these bastards. Another Health care bill, uppp, law, that’s going to make more drugs available to sedate the apathetic, docile bovine masses even more numb and stupid to these Washington DC., were takin care of it, POS???


6 posted on 03/23/2010 7:45:50 PM PDT by gargoyle (..."I have not yet begun to fight" John Paul Jones...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Clinton married to the Clinton who had a "vacuum cleaner for a nose"....what a laugh....

once again,thanks to all those "conservatives" who sat home, the "independents" that wanted "change" and the third party voters, who just wanted everybody to know how "mad" they were..

thanks for bambi and thanks for the Rat Congress...

7 posted on 03/23/2010 7:52:02 PM PDT by cherry
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To: gargoyle
the most severe drug problem in the US presently has nothing to do with illegal drugs from Mexico....its prescription meds that are over used, abused, sold, stolen, endangering all of us...to get their buzz these adicts are willing to rob,assualt, murder.....

fact is, drugs have an unpredictable affect on people, and no matter if legal or not, its never enough, never...

Methadone is a pretty much of a joke for junkies...they get on that and then get on the prescribed stuff...you can not control these people..

8 posted on 03/23/2010 7:57:01 PM PDT by cherry
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...”never enough, never...” Ok, I agree. “you can not control these people..” Again, I would concur. But, what is your solution to this issue. I’ve offered mine, since it hasn’t been tried, there is no data compiled to test the theory. Your facts may be right, but, from there, this debate goes nowhere. Please, enlighten me, I’d like to know the solution, in your opinion...


9 posted on 03/23/2010 8:52:35 PM PDT by gargoyle (..."I have not yet begun to fight" John Paul Jones...)
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To: NormsRevenge

OMG, does anyone remember the Clintons and Mena, Arkansas?

Drug trafficking.


10 posted on 03/23/2010 9:00:15 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: gargoyle
We do have current and historical estimates of addiction rates from the US government.

The ONDCP figures for addiction in 2000 show 977,000 heroin addicts and 3,325,000 cocaine addicts. With a population of 280,000,000, that works out to an addiction rate of about 1.5%. The data is reproduced in table form at the following link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1454298/posts?page=88#88

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The DEA says that 0.5% of Americans were addicted to either cocaine or opium in 1900:

By 1900, about one American in 200 was either a cocaine or opium addict.

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/demand/speakout/06so.htm

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So after a century of increasingly aggressive prohibition, our own government is telling us that addiction has gone from 0.5% in 1900 to 1.5% in 2000.

11 posted on 03/23/2010 9:54:58 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: NormsRevenge

This war is all about a struggle for Obama to unionize the drug trade and control prices...


12 posted on 03/23/2010 10:15:35 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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This war is all about a struggle for Obama to unionize the drug trade and control prices...

That is something we must fight to the death against. The drug trade should be kept NON-unionized, & the free market should determine the price. It's as simple as that.

13 posted on 03/24/2010 12:11:11 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Clinton told a news conference, pledging that the joint U.S.-Mexican response would not be bound by “borders or bureaucratic divisions.””

No, no we wouldn’t want that...borders?????

Everyone is talking about how Isreal is being invaded and pushed out for Palestine. One of these days some monster like Clinton will announce that we have no right to build in California because it shouldn’t be ‘bound by borders’.


14 posted on 03/24/2010 8:22:38 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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The Mexicans have been complaining about “North American arms” flowing across their border. I fully expect the communists here to use that argument as justification to infringe on our 2nd Amendment rights to own and bear arms. Sooner or later, they will get around to it.


15 posted on 03/24/2010 1:17:28 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Ken H

...Thanks for the facts, I have read and heard the abuse, addiction rate is up. It’s a tough issue, for or against the WOD. My point is the WOD is not effective,for the most part. Surely those on the front line are in harms way. they’re brave people. But, they choose to be there, and bad things happen in war. People get killed...

...I don’t have a solution, I just have an opinion on what doesn’t work. And the WOD is not working...


16 posted on 03/25/2010 5:36:02 PM PDT by gargoyle (..."I have not yet begun to fight" John Paul Jones...)
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