Skip to comments.An Interview With The Man Challenging John McCain: J.D. Hayworth (J.D. attacks Lindsey Graham)
Posted on 03/24/2010 12:22:06 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
Former Congressman J.D. Hayworth is taking on John McCain in Arizona's Republican primary. It's a close race. According to the latest Rasmussen poll, Hayworth is only down seven points to McCain.
What follows is the slightly edited transcript of our conversation from last Friday. Enjoy!
Now John McCain supported the bank bailouts via Tarp. Where do you stand on that issue?
I'm absolutely against that bailout. It was horrible. It was $700 billion to the big investment banks on Wall Street and I think that the head of Branch Banking and Trust was absolutely right. He looks like a prophet now. He sent that letter to John McCain and every member of Congress saying don't support this. Because what you're going to be doing is putting the money on Wall Street. It will not get to Main Street. He absolutely understood that and again, that bailout vote was not only the 700 billion to Wall Street, but also the 150 billion in earmarks. People understand it and that's why the race has shifted. Because they hear John McCain claiming to be against earmarks, yet he voted for that $150 billion in earmarks to sweeten that stinky bailout. People don't like it that's why we're closing the gap and within seven points.
John McCain was the biggest Republican supporter of comprehensive immigration reform although he changed to security during the presidential the campaign. He actually went back and forth. If you were elected to the Senate, where would you stand on that issue?
I would be for enforcement first and I would be against amnesty. Despite John McCain's retreat from amnesty, people in Arizona understand (the differences between us on this issue.)
Do you agree with John McCain that Water Boarding is torture?
Let me put it this way: I have a lot of respect for what John McCain endured in North Vietnam and I have no doubt that what the North Vietnamese Communists put him through was torture, plain and simple. But what I understand is the distinction.
The enhanced interrogation techniques worked for us. We understand from published accounts that enhanced interrogation techniques prevented at least four, count them four, 9-11 type attacks. The people of America and the people of Arizona want to do whatever it takes to protect the American people. Again, that's why the momentum is on our side and why Mr. McCain's lead has evaporated.
Now at one point during the campaign, John McCain said "I would close Guantanamo Bay and I would move those prisoners to Fort Leavenworth." Is that something you agree with?
No, I don't agree with the idea of closing Gitmo and I certainly don't agree with the notion of bringing them to Fort Leavenworth. Indeed if the need is to bring them to the United States of America, which I don't believe in, there are abandoned listening posts on the Aleutian Islands. I've actually got an e-mail from a guy who owns one of those bases. He said "I'd be happy to have the terrorists freezing their buns off in the Aleutians." Arizonans and Americans instinctively know that enemy combatants should not be better fed, better housed or better clothed than the American troops guarding them -- and closing Gitmo would be a grave error.
Now John McCain opposes the cap and trade program that's moving through the Senate. However, he's made it clear he is a supporter, in general, of a cap and trade program for the United States. What do you think of that? Is that something you agree with?
Cap and trade ought to be named cap and tax. It caps the quality of life that the American people have and it taxes them to death. It's absolutely wrong. Last Congress, John McCain and Joe Lieberman put forth a cap and trade bill. So he says, "I'm against cap and trade now, but I was for it last Congress." That sounds more like John Kerry than John McCain and it's why Arizonans are awakening and this race is tightening.
Now one of the pieces of legislation that's most associated with John McCain is McCain-Feingold. What's your opinion on that? Good legislation? Bad legislation?
Key elements of McCain-Feingold's so called campaign finance reform were quite fittingly deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. The people of America and the people of Arizona don't want to see their First Amendment rights taken away. They don't want to see special carve-outs for media companies like the New York Times, while advocacy groups like the National Rifle Association are silenced. So again, John McCain being against the First Amendment and embracing unconstitutional campaign finance reform is another reason why the voters in the Republican primary in August are going to go with me.
John McCain initially opposed the Bush tax cuts. Fo you think he was right about that?
The sad fact is that when I was a member of the Ways and Means Committee, the only such Arizonan ever honored with that important assignment in the House of Representatives, I helped to write the Bush tax cuts in 2001 and 2003. On both occasions, I was very disappointed to hear Mr. McCain say quote, "these are tax cuts for the rich," close quotes. Again, it sounds more like John Kerry than the John McCain I used to work with. I'm very happy now that he's had a conservative conversion, but I think the voters of Arizona remain skeptical, if not down right cynical about it. The voters of Arizona know where I stand. They know I'm a consistent conservative. That's why the momentum is on our side and that's why I hope Arizonans receive those that tax cuts.
Now let's shift gears just a little bit and kill this Birther issue once and for all. It's something that has been brought up a whole lot. You said that you had guests on your radio program who've discussed the issue, but it's not something you buy into. So let's just put it out there and settle it once and for all: Do you believe Barrack Obama was born in Hawaii?
I believe Barrack Obama was born in Hawaii. He's been certified as the President of the United States. It's not Mr. Obama's eligibility that's in question; it's his performance in office. I opposed Mr. Obama for his health care plan, which I believe is unconstitutional, and I believe the democrats are approaching in an unconstitutional manner. I oppose Mr. Obama because of his willingness to try and take over industries. And I stand squarely against Mr. Obama on his motion of amnesty and the inevitable tax increases that will follow given his plans for big government. That's one thing about having J. D. Hayworth in the United States Senate that Arizonans won't have to doubt. I will clearly and unmistakably be a consistent conservative.
Now there's another controversy that's been in the news recently. You made a comment about gay marriage and horses that has been, in all fairness to you, taken completely out of context. You didn't compare gay marriage to someone marrying a horse. You said if the establishment of intimacy is grounds for a marriage, you could say the same thing about a horse. You also prefaced it by saying it was an absurd point. Two things. One do you think your comments have been taken wildly out of context and two I just want to clarify were you referring to this passage from the Massachusetts court ruling: Civil marriage is at once a deeply personal commitment to another human being and a highly public celebration of the ideals of mutuality, companionship, intimacy, fidelity and family.
To answer your second question, "yes." But, in a broader context John, rather than have disputes about court cases and language, let me focus on the language that I think should be adopted. It's language I worked on with Marilyn Musgrave back when we proposed a constitutional amendment because we think it's that important to protect the sanctity of marriage. Here's the language that is most important. No flippancy, no tongue in cheek -- here's the simple language everyone should focus on: "Marriage in the United States shall consist of the union of one man and one woman." That's enough said on that. That's what I advocate and it's sad that it takes a constitutional amendment to basically recognize the sanctity of marriage, but that is something I support.
Last two questions here. John McCain has certainly moved to the right this year compared to where he's been over the last few years. Do you think that's because he expected a strong primary challenge? Put another way, do you think if John McCain won, he'd be working hard with Obama in the next Congress to get legislation passed that conservatives would hate?
Sadly, I believe that although we all, in a sense, welcome conversion experiences and we'd love to see a genuine conversion to conservatism from John McCain, I think it is a campaign year conversion. I believe, quite frankly, that Senator Lindsey Graham is Mr. McCain's proxy and under-study.
Should John McCain prevail, which I don't believe he will -- but worst case scenario, if John McCain is able to fool enough Arizonans to return to the United States Senate, rest assured he will pull out the rhetorical sharp stick and continue to poke conservatives right in the eye. That's why the polls are tightening. It's why I believe I will prevail. I'm not going to let the people of Arizona down. We're going to continue to close this gap and on August 24th we're going to be victorious and then in November, we're going to send a consistent conservative to the United States Senate.
J. D. -- last question. The Democrats don't have a strong candidate at the moment. So, do you think whoever wins this primary will probably be the nominee?
Well John, I just want to caution everyone the I take every election very seriously, whether it's the republican primary or the general election in November. Still, I would not follow the illogic of some of the McCain people saying, "Oh gee, you better not nominate a real conservative because he'll have a tough time winning the general election." I believe Americans still want change, but they want the right kind of change and that means what you and I believe on the right. A conservative point of view -- a consistently conservative point of view. The Democrats could nominate Secretary Napolitano. If she tries to return to Arizona with her ill advised abandoning of any type of border security and her terrible stewardship of the Department of Homeland Security, not to mention her multi billion dollar mess she left here fiscally .I will still take that campaign very seriously. But, I believe the important first step is to move ahead and win on August 24th with the help of conservatives from coast to coast. Then we'll be in position to have a consistent conservative in the United States Senate following the general election in November.
J. D., I really appreciate your time. Thank you, buddy.
Not as much as I appreciate your time and that of all the folks who check out Right Wing News. The only thing I'd ask is that they visit jdforsenate.com and help us in this historic and ultimately, I believe, successful effort.
With apologies to Harry Truman.
I just got an email from McCain and, in part, he says:
“””I assure you I am not quitting our fight. I believe we must repeal this bill immediately.
I am currently working in every way possible on your behalf to accomplish this. However, I am facing a tough reelection campaign. If I am not reelected this year, I cannot fight for our shared values in the Senate. That’s why your immediate donation of any amount is so critical.””””
Donation to J.D. on its way!
Keep going JD! I’m behind you 100% — only wish I could vote for you — but at least I can vote against Lindsey Grahmnesty next time (if we still have free and open elections by then)
Same here, I can’t vote for him but I can send a donation.
Hayworth MUST run like a conservative. No backing up, no hemming or hawing, no McCain type BS or spinelessness. He damned well SHOULD attack RINOs in the senate and swear to NEVER become one if elected.
Critical? Why? "America has nothing to fear from a President Obama"...
Nailed it. That’s what every one of us has been saying for months.
Graham is mxain’s proxy. If he were not up for reelection this year, he would be front and center on cap and tax AND amnesty himself...and we damn well know it.
Succinctly put, JD.
Agreed. It would be unmanly for J.D. to attack a little girl.
I have always liked the way J.D. speaks and uses turns of phrase. He has a lyrical way of speaking while slicing someone up.
We will make great progress toward repeal of Obama’s Socialized Medicine when RINO Incumbent Senators like McCain lose in their primaries.
How many RINO Senators are up for election this year?
How many RINO’s can we get rid of in the primary?
The only thing I would be willing to donate to jonny mop is a wooden bucket of tepid water dropped slowly, slowly through the flames to the depths of hell.
Obama is and was a MARXIST in college.
Here is an interview from someone who knew him: send to everyone you know if you wish to spread the (blocked) word:
The full interview is devastating.
Too bad Fox News ignored Dr Drew in 2008 when he contacted them.
We now know the details of Barrys Occidental years.
He was an avowed and committed Marxist.
“I assure you I am not quitting our fight. I believe we must repeal this bill immediately.”
“I am currently working in every way possible on your behalf to accomplish this. However, I am facing a tough reelection campaign. If I am not reelected this year, I cannot fight for our shared values in the Senate. Thats why your immediate donation of any amount is so critical.”
MCcAIN HAS 20 MILLION DOLLARS.
WHAT A WHORE!
McCain's amnesty will cause great damage to this country. Rightly or wrongly, he was perceived by many to be the Manchurian Candidate. According to "Game Change," he is fanatically superstitious - has his lucky penny and lucky compass and in New Hampshire insisted on sleeping in the same hotel, the same room, and the same side of the bed as in 2000.
Many of us got this info from authors Freddoso & Corsi 2 years ago. All documented.
I can see JD declaring this in public.
I cannot see McCain EVER calling Obama what he very clearly is.
We cannot fight what we lack the courage to even identify.
Is McCain the only RINO Incumbent Senator running this year?
It appears to be the case. We need to make a point of that.
Republican incumbents (12 seats)
2.4.1 Richard Shelby of Alabama
2.4.2 Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
2.4.3 John McCain of Arizona
2.4.4 Johnny Isakson of Georgia
2.4.5 Mike Crapo of Idaho
2.4.6 Chuck Grassley of Iowa
2.4.7 David Vitter of Louisiana
2.4.8 Richard Burr of North Carolina
2.4.9 Tom Coburn of Oklahoma
2.4.10 Jim DeMint of South Carolina
2.4.11 John Thune of South Dakota
2.4.12 Bob Bennett of Utah
Proxy is putting it lightly. I have better descriptions, but I understand J.D.’s reluctance to use terms like butt boy. Keep things civilized.
Isn’t Grassley a RINO?
I am not sure about Grassley. Hopefully, someone who knows will post.
Tell that POS McCain to send me back the money I sent in 2008> He decided to throw the election for Soros and bank at least $22 million.
McCain is worse than Crist.
“John McCain was initially against Bush tax cuts”
I call that a DEMOCRAT. What do you think Mitt or Sarah?
AN amnesty taht McCain and his alter ego Graham-nesty is pushing will DESTROY this country. Period. Game over.
This is what John McCain wants to do.
JD used to have an afternoon radio show broadcast in Phoenix that I would listen to on the drive home. However, McLame forced JD off the air. McLame couldn’t take JD’s criticism so he had some high-powered lawyer friends sue the radio station and its owner, Clear Channel Communications. [L=Link]http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/01/23/20100123jd-hayworth-radio0123.html[/L]
I much prefer listening to JD than McLame anyday. JD is not afraid to call some one out and call a Spade a Spade.
Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."
Want on or off this ping list?
Just FReepmail me.
Well, how did Cindy’s input work out for him in 2008?
As much as I like Sarah Palin, and won’t touch her reasons for campaigning for McCain, I do hope JD wins the primary. I thought that McCain was unbeatable and probably would be Senator until he retired on his own or passed away. But, we need new blood in Congress.
Mark Levin made a comment the other evening. He said it isn’t the House Republicans we have to worry about so much, but, the ones in the Senate. I agree with him.
Bump! Filing ....
Adding this to the Hayworth vs. McCain — Primary Headline Roundup
McShame has had years and years in office in which he could have worked to move this country in a conservative direction. Instead, the only thing he has been interested in is to get his face in front of as many cameras as possible and to back stab conservatives. It’s time to send McShame packing.
Send it to JD instead. McCain had $5 million in his senate campaign and $22 million left over from his presidential campaign. Why on earth would he be soliciting money?
De Mint? Thune? Coburn? Are you NUTS?
Ooops sorry, I misinterpreted your post.