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Rancher and Dog Killed by Illegal Alien
Diggers Realm ^ | 3/28/2010 | Digger

Posted on 03/28/2010 1:25:04 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert

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To: c-b 1

Drug runner or possibly terrorist activity. Someone wanted to make sure he didn’t live to tell what he saw.


52 posted on 03/28/2010 2:38:15 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Tammy8

I tried to e-mail the article to O’Reilly but his inbox is full.


53 posted on 03/28/2010 2:39:25 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Ladycalif

Heartbreaking.


54 posted on 03/28/2010 2:40:33 PM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: TigersEye; Cobra64; HiJinx; AuntB; Liz

What is wrong with politicians in this country? Why are they so willing to let thousands more be maimed and killed by these invaders?

If the US did all you suggested, TE, it would certainly help. I’ll add one more:

NO MORE WIRING MONEY THROUGH WESTERN UNION FROM THE USA TO MEXICO. (Or tax every dollar 80%). I know, it’s probably a dumb suggestion, but Mexico gets billions of US dollars every year. There should be some way to stop this.


55 posted on 03/28/2010 2:40:39 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie

“What is wrong with politicians in this country? Why are they so willing to let thousands more be maimed and killed by these invaders?”

Ah, yorkie, we citizens are merely collateral damage in their war against the sovereignty of the United States, and YES, that includes McCain & Graham and anyone who coddles them.


56 posted on 03/28/2010 2:44:08 PM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: DLfromthedesert

I have been emailing everyone I can think of in the media all morning since my daughter called and told me about this and I could not find it in the news. I am so angry right now that this is not being reported. Maybe we need to fill everyone’s email box until this story is told. Far too many things that happen on the border are not reported and that needs to change.


57 posted on 03/28/2010 2:44:24 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Tammy8

Thank you, Tammy. With your determination, it will get reported.


58 posted on 03/28/2010 2:46:27 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Tammy8

***Are you talking about the school teacher and her husband or a different incident?***

Al I remember is the husband was a local rancher there.


59 posted on 03/28/2010 2:51:25 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Obama's vision for America...Green shoots and skittles, where pancakes grow on fritter trees.)
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To: Tammy8; AuntB

The LSM seem to avoid reporting anything negative about them. They rarely use the words “illegal alien” - only ‘undocumented worker’.


60 posted on 03/28/2010 2:52:47 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Clintonfatigued; DLfromthedesert; Willie Green; ExTexasRedhead; AuntB; metmom

LET’S SEE IF WE GOT THIS RIGHT.

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET:

* A JOB,

* A DRIVERS LICENSE,

* SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,

* WELFARE,

* FOOD STAMPS,

* CREDIT CARDS,

* SUBSIDIZED RENT

* SUBSIDIZED LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,

* FREE EDUCATION,

* FREE HEALTH CARE,

* A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON,

* BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE,

* AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY’S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOUDON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION!


61 posted on 03/28/2010 2:53:02 PM PDT by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: All
Mexican drug traffickers cement grip in US----with help from Congress.........

Over and above the millions who violate our borders, 1.5 million legal foreign workers come to the US each year, as a matter of course.

But this number isn’t high enough for Dem Cong Gutierrez and his 92 co-sponsors. Their Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill includes a provision called “recapture” that will add up all the supposedly “unused” work visas since 1992 and issue them immediately.

This is a complete fraud, as all unused work visas are rolled over to the family reunification category the next year as it is.

Gutierrez' Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill will create 100,000 visas from countries that send the most illegal immigrants every year. According to the State Department, this will mean 550,000 new foreign workers.

AND GET THIS Mexico is the staging area for Third World and other illegals preparing to violate our borders. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill rewards Mexico b/c they calculatedly promote illegal immigration.

Gutierrez' bill will make it much easier for more illegal aliens to break in. Under the Bill, to prove they have jobs and were in the country BEFORE Congress passed amnesty, illegals are allowed to use stolen ID's, fake green cards, and fraudulent SS numbers....... without fear of prosecution.

Mexico facilitates the profitable staging area for global illegals to cross the border. Contrary to Obama’s claim that CIR bill will increase border security, it does just the opposite.........

<> it guts successful enforcement measures,

<>limits raids on illegal immigrants,

<> prohibits use of troops on the border,

<> replaces E-Verify used to ensure employers hire legal American workers,

<> overturns all state and local US laws that crackdown on illegal immigration,

<> abolishes 287(g) that allows local L/E and federal authorities to apprehend criminal illegals.

62 posted on 03/28/2010 2:56:36 PM PDT by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: yorkie
It's not a dumb suggestion, yorkie, you're trying find solutions just like the rest of us. I don't agree with doing that though. If they go home they won't be sending money from here to there. I know it would be a small percentage but it would punish those who are here legally for sending money to Mexico.

On the other hand if Mexico were designated a narco-terrorist state by our State Dept., not likely with this administration but not unreasonable the way things are going, it would be justifiable to prohibit funds from going there perhaps.

We just need to enforce the laws we have and stop the entitlements and I believe the problem would dry up as the motivation to come here dried up.

63 posted on 03/28/2010 2:58:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The incident I know about was a teacher at Animas,NM school and she and her husband had a ranch. They

were murdered by 4 illegals- the story was her husband had already been murdered when she arrived at the ranch and she had a stack of papers to be graded and tried to protect herself by holding up the children’s papers. Darnell was the sheriff then and a real no nonsense salt of the earth man. I heard him say once that was a heartbreaking scene that he would never forget. I know at least some of the illegals that murdered that ranching couple were apprehended but that was before this country became so PC.

It is time for us to control this border- no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Our politiicians need to be told plainly that this needs to end now and our border needs to be secured.


64 posted on 03/28/2010 3:01:00 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Tammy8

http://www.kvoa.com/home/

BREAKING NEWS: Southeastern AZ rancher found dead

Posted - 3/28/2010 at 3:10PM
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BREAKING NEWS: Southeastern AZ rancher found dead

COCHISE COUNTY - News 4 has confirmed that a well-known rancher in Southeastern Arizona has died.

Investigators say the body of Rob Krentz was found Saturday night near his ranch.

Rancher Rob Krentz, Courtesy: sonoranalliance.comRancher Rob Krentz, Courtesy: sonoranalliance.com Saturday morning Krentz reportedly left the ranch on a quad and called home a short time later to report an illegal immigrant, whom he thought was in need of medical attention.

That was the last time anyone heard from him.

Investigators located Krentz alongside his dog who we understand had been shot.

News 4 has a crew working this story.

Check back for updates.


65 posted on 03/28/2010 3:04:42 PM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: DLfromthedesert

The hacks in DC care as much about Rancher Rob Krentz as they do about white farmers in Zimbabwe and South Africa. And I mean ail of them, Democrat and Republican. OK you have a few good Republicans in the House such as Ted Poe


66 posted on 03/28/2010 3:06:08 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: dennisw

We need to make them care.


67 posted on 03/28/2010 3:07:17 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Borax Queen

I hope you get a chance to read this article (it is also reported by kvoa news).


68 posted on 03/28/2010 3:13:08 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Tammy8

bump- please keep this on the front page until the story gets out!


69 posted on 03/28/2010 3:13:15 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Roklok
These ranchers need to carry the modern version of the Winchester rifle. The AR-15 Carbine. The also need to view everyone as a possible threat.

That is not a very good way to live! Granted circumstance has left them no alternative, but that is a sorry way to live!

70 posted on 03/28/2010 3:14:04 PM PDT by makoman
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To: Liz

Sadly, you do.


71 posted on 03/28/2010 3:14:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AuntB

AuntB, folks just aren’t listening. They see this as hype to a certain degree and continue to elect people who sell them out on a regular basis. You see it rightcheer on this forum.

People mean well, but they get a burr under their saddle and they go off half-cocked.

Rationality is in short supply these days. Keep shoveling it onto the forum. Perhaps someone will plant some daisies.


72 posted on 03/28/2010 3:17:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Novemberrrrrr.. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2477039/posts?page=16#16)
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To: Tammy8

What an awful account


73 posted on 03/28/2010 3:18:04 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Tammy8

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange/archives/2010/03/28/cochise-county-rancher-murdered

eo W. Banks, who has been covering border issues for years, brings us news that Rob Krentz was killed yesterday in the Chiricahua Corridor.

Leo—who has written about the Krentz family before (see here)—says:

Cochise County rancher Rob Krentz was shot and killed on his ranch some time Saturday, presumably by a drug smuggler.

The death, which being investigated as a homicide, occurred in the San Bernardino Valley, part of the Malpais region. The event has rocked the towns of Douglas and Portal, and the ranches in between, both of which have been under siege by cross-border smugglers for years.

As the Weekly has reported, the situation in the so-called Chiricahua Corridor has deteriorated lately, leaving residents fearful that an episode of this kind was inevitable. The grief is great for the Krentz family and their many friends throughout Southeast Arizona; Krentzes have been ranching in Cochise County for more than a century.

The Weekly has received word that a representative for Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords has placed calls to Cochise County, trying to set up a community meeting, either Monday or Tuesday at 11 a.m., possibly at the Apache School. The Giffords’ rep making the arrangements said it is possible she will ask the president to place military units in the besieged area

A source tells the Weekly the practical impact of Giffords’ actions might be small, but at least she is paying attention. The source said, “Kolbe laughed at us when we complained, and McCain worries about getting his patent leather shoes dirty when he’s down here.”


74 posted on 03/28/2010 3:20:35 PM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks for the suggestions, TE. Appreciate your input.


75 posted on 03/28/2010 3:21:07 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Tammy8

longtime Douglas rancher shot and killed
Posted: Mar 28, 2010 11:48 AM PDT Updated: Mar 28, 2010 3:04 PM PDT

By Sarah Sanchez- email

DOUGLAS, AZ (KOLD)- The Cochise County Sheriff’s Department is investigating the shooting death of 58-year-old Rob Krentz Sunday.

Details are extremely limited at this time.

Cochise County Sheriff’s Department spokeswoman Carol Capas said the investigation is happening on the Kretz Ranch, about 30 miles northeast of Douglas.

Krentz’s body was discovered just before midnight Saturday, according to Capas.

“More details will be released later this afternoon,” Capas said.

Stay tuned to KOLD News 13 at 5:30 p.m. and 10 p.m., along with www.kold.com for updates.


76 posted on 03/28/2010 3:23:45 PM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: dennisw

Sadly there are many such stories- most were not reported. Those that happened before the internet became in wide use are mostly known only to locals. It is past time to get the word out, especially now that Mexico is the new Colombia and totally out of control.


77 posted on 03/28/2010 3:25:57 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: Tammy8

Have you contacted Fox news in Phoenix - why have they not reported on this tragedy? I called - the more the better.
602-257-1234


78 posted on 03/28/2010 3:27:04 PM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: Ladycalif

I am glad to know that this is at least making the news in Arizona- now it needs to go national.


79 posted on 03/28/2010 3:27:51 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: DLfromthedesert

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-mine


80 posted on 03/28/2010 3:31:54 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: cripplecreek

I know he was on his own property, that doesn’t matter to drug runners.


81 posted on 03/28/2010 3:35:11 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: c-b 1

An ICE agent told me a year or so ago that the cartels own the area east of the Chiricahuas. Our folks won’t go there unless they are geared up like they were heading into the sandbox. The San Pedro area is bad, but those citizens over that way are really in a world of hurt.


82 posted on 03/28/2010 3:41:53 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: AuntB

You called the website “THE Border Patrol,” when it clearly was not.


83 posted on 03/28/2010 3:43:44 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Roklok

“Mini-14 is good too.”

It is indeed.


84 posted on 03/28/2010 3:45:12 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Ladycalif

I emailed the story to the main FOX news website, but thank you for the Phoenix number, that may get word out faster. Many in this area are trying to get this out- I hear some of the TV stations in Tucson are sending reporters to the ranch. Please get this story out there, this should not be swept under the rug.


85 posted on 03/28/2010 3:49:06 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: yorkie

“The LSM seem to avoid reporting anything negative about them. They rarely use the words ‘illegal alien’ - only ‘undocumented worker’.”

Hell, Geraldo Rivera calls them GUESTS!


86 posted on 03/28/2010 3:50:46 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Hulka

You seem to have no interest in the actual story about the rancher murdered- so why are you even on this thread? The group calls itself the US Border Patrol and is made up of former and current Border Patrol agents and others with interest in the border. The group has been active for a few years and the formal government agency you are so worried about hasn’t complained or taken action about the name of the group so why are you in such a dither? I understood when you first pointed out that it was not the government agency that was quoted- but now why don’t you give it a rest? I doubt that AuntB gave them the name and your sniping at her is getting old.

If you have a complaint about the name of the group I suggest you take it up with them.


87 posted on 03/28/2010 4:04:01 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

I knew it was bad over there, I didn’t know it was that bad, but I’m not surprised.


88 posted on 03/28/2010 4:06:28 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Interesting, sir, but as a point of order, you do know that ICE is not Border Patrol.

The Border Patrol goes where they want and don’t let anyone intimidate them. They gear up before hitting the desert, no matter where they go. All places are dangerous and not one square inch of US soil is considered by the Border Patrol is “owned” by the cartels. As a side note, the Chiricahuas area is a mere 15 miles to the east of the Border Patrol Horse Patrol Academy.


89 posted on 03/28/2010 4:10:29 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Tammy8

Dither?

Hardly.

Disagree with their name?

Hardly.

As you pointed out, I clarified the post. That was my intent.

Others decided to emote.


90 posted on 03/28/2010 4:15:33 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: tiapam

PING - OMG, you will cry when you read this sad, horrible story!


91 posted on 03/28/2010 4:27:28 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Hulka

Don’t live around the border in the Tuscon Sector, do you?

I can go days without seeing any members of the USBP, not even 10 miles north of the border. The USBP does its best, but it is fighting a losing battle. And they know it.


92 posted on 03/28/2010 4:27:54 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: Tammy8; Hulka

Tammy, ignore the troll. Some people have no intention of joining in a conversation - they just want to sneak over to the punch bowl and drop in a turd!


93 posted on 03/28/2010 4:31:38 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: SandRat

Thanks for the ping. I suspect this story won’t get much play...


94 posted on 03/28/2010 4:37:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: Hulka

To clarify even further, I have yet to meet a USBP agent in the field in an OTV, with NV gear, M4, and MICH. So no, they do not gear up like they are going to the sandbox. Not sure where you get your info from, but it isn’t right.


95 posted on 03/28/2010 4:43:15 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: GOPJ

La Raza and Me.Ch.A. can’t have that so they will make sure the LameStramMedia follows orders ad shuts up about it.


96 posted on 03/28/2010 4:47:10 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: All
You people just know know the half of it. Talk to my aunt and uncle in Laredo, Texas. Their story of illegal aliens (YES. ILLEGAL ALIENS. They are not 'immigrants'. They are not 'guest workers') will make your blood boil

They'll tell you about having their home and outside buildings broken into by illegal aliens.

They'll tell you about having guard dogs and livestock killed by illegal aliens.

They'll tell you about being afraid every time their teenaged daughters leave the house. (will they be kidnapped and sold as sex slaves to a drug cartel?)

They'll tell you about being reprimanded by the local sheriff about firing back at an illegal alien caught stealing on their property.

They'll tell you about a neighbor rancher who found a rotting corpse left behind on his property by an illegal pack leader.

They'll tell you about cut fences and vandalism

They'll tell you about the trail of filth they have to clean up weekly on their property- bottles, cans, clothes, paper, dirty diapers and human excretement.

It's enough to make your blood boil. These are decent, hardworking people who have owned this ranch for generation- and they are considering selling out and moving for their own safety. The law won't do sh*t about it.

.

97 posted on 03/28/2010 4:53:16 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
The guys on the line don't view it as losing war, they look at it as a war in progress and progress is good. . .meaning they are now up to nearly 19,000 Agents and interceptions are way up, as are drug seizures.

More people, more kit, more guys on the line and they are doing wonders. Need a bunch more but they are doing a lot more than a few years back when they numbered only about 3,500 Agents to cover the border, north and south. Morale is up.

These Border Patrol Agents primarily work the desert, avoid the roads mostly, as that is where the trail are and the bodies they grab. Then there are the Indian villages. Those places are drug dens and far off the main roads. Menengers is central for a lot of that action, for example. That is where you would find the Border Patrol Agents. The places they work are not places easily accessible off-road, that is why they use 4-wheel drive, ATV and horses. The Border Patrol Agents generally hate to work an “X” or to work a vehicle check-point. Boring to them, as you would expect from guys that would be drawn to the work (alone, outdoors, etc.)

What bothers them most is not so much the “catch and release” policy, but the policy of not prosecuting drug runners that are caught with a 50lb backpack of dope strapped to their body.

Or so say the Agents I know that work the Tucson Sector.

98 posted on 03/28/2010 4:53:37 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: SandRat

Do you suppose the SPP has anything to do with it, also?


99 posted on 03/28/2010 4:54:07 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie

Perhaps...


100 posted on 03/28/2010 5:00:00 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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