Libertarians support the Leftwing Code Pinkos and 9/11 Truthers
Posted on 03/28/2010 3:00:13 PM PDT by RED SOUTH
Libertarians support the Leftwing Code Pinkos and 9/11 Truthers
Ron Paul Supports the Marxist with his statement, Iran and North Korea are not a threat
that is where you are wrong. I would rather have a dem Wh and a GOP congress then a RINO controlled WH and a GOP congress. now if the dems still have congress in 2012 I’ll say a Rino is better. If I can’t have a real conservative govenrment I’ll vote for gridlock before I place a liberal GOP in the WH again. bush gave liberals GOpers a bad name.
wrong that “windfall priofit tax” was PAlin governing in a conssitutional way. she was required by her state ‘s consitution to get the most she could for her citizens resources. To do less would be for her to tear up her states’ consitution and act like a typical Rino.
“wrong that “windfall priofit tax” was PAlin governing in a conssitutional way. she was required by her state ‘s consitution to get the most she could for her citizens resources. To do less would be for her to tear up her states’ consitution and act like a typical Rino.”
That’s an interesting spin on it, considering the concept of a “windfall profit” is a Democrat one.
Spoken like someone who very much does not want to see another conservative candidate emerge.
I plan to see which candidates actually declare for the office, and to support the most conservative name on that list.
That's what most of us plan to do.
So, how are you any different?
I wonder whether those trashing Palin over her support for McCain ever really liked her to begin with. I detect a bunch of Mitty Moles.
Eric Pode of Croydon was a rather seedy and revolting character, similar in many ways to J. Peasemold Gruntfuttock in Round The Horne.
ARTICLE 08 -- NATURAL RESOURCES Section 8.1 - Statement of Policy. It is the policy of the State to encourage the settlement of its land and the development of its resources by making them available for maximum use consistent with the public interest. Section 8.2 - General Authority. The legislature shall provide for the utilization, development, and conservation of all natural resources belonging to the State, including land and waters, for the maximum benefit of its people. Section 8.3 - Common Use. Wherever occurring in their natural state, fish, wildlife, and waters are reserved to the people for common use. Section 8.4 - Sustained Yield. Fish, forests, wildlife, grasslands, and all other replenishable resources belonging to the State shall be utilized, developed, and maintained on the sustained yield principle, subject to preferences among beneficial uses. Section 8.5 - Facilities and Improvements. The legislature may provide for facilities, improvements, and services to assure greater utilization, development, reclamation, and settlement of lands, and to assure fuller utilization and development of the fisheries, wildlife, and waters.
“Well it was the other poster that used the term “windfall profit tax” “
Actually, quite a few people have pointed out that that’s what it was.
Keep spinning, though. It’s as entertaining as defending Nixon’s price fixing as a conservative move.
So let me get this clear. If you are the CEO of a corporations and you find that you can get more money for your resources from the company you are supply those resources too you have no responsibility to your shareholders to renegotiate your contract with those companies? You are such a poser. Either you believe in fiscal responsibility to the people you work for or you don’t. Last time I looked the AK Constitution said nothing about making sure the oil companies got the best deal. It does say something however about the people getting the most benefit for their resources. Always a double standard when it comes to Palin form the Palin haters. Palin haters are nothing but hypocrites
“So let me get this clear. If you are the CEO of a corporations and you find that you can get more money for your resources from the company you are supply those resources too you have no responsibility to your shareholders to renegotiate your contract with those companies? “
Targeted taxes that drive out investment aren’t conservative approaches.
“Palin haters are nothing but hypocrites”
You’re just a blind fanboi. I’m sure you support her support for the “Bridge to Nowhere” too.
hmmm....then this I guess is just hogwash....
Parnell said a new Department of Revenue study found the oil-tax system generally works well and that oil companies are increasing investment and jobs in the state. But he said there are incentives the state can give to create more economic activity..... .....
The Revenue Department study released Thursday said oil company capital spending on the North Slope has increased since the higher taxes were imposed and at $2.2 billion stands at the highest level in Alaska's history. At least some of the increase is due to new development activities, the study said, pointing to Eni's Nikaitchuq field and Pioneer Natural Resource Co.'s Oooguruk field.,
Read more: http://www.adn.com/2010/01/14/1093461/parnell-seeks-investment-incentives.html#ixzz0jcAKppL5
Hmmm who do I believe the Department of Revenue or a Palin hater? hmmmmm tough one. facts are funny things aren't they.
So Palin's ACES increased investment to the highest amount in state history, increased revenue to the highest amount in state history, and created jobs.
“Parnell said a new Department of Revenue study found the oil-tax system generally works well and that oil companies are increasing investment and jobs in the state. But he said there are incentives the state can give to create more economic activity..... ..... “
An increased tax is a disincentive to economic activity.
“At least some of the increase is due to new development activities, the study said, pointing to Eni’s Nikaitchuq field and Pioneer Natural Resource Co.’s Oooguruk field.,”
That has nothing to do with increased taxes. BP developed Liberty Field to avoid ACES. The oil companies view Alaska as a high-cost environment to do business because of things like ACES and the previous tax scheme. OF COURSE the freaking Department of Revenue would like a TAX!
“So Palin’s ACES increased investment to the highest amount in state history, increased revenue to the highest amount in state history, and created jobs.”
Increaseing revenue isn’t a conservative goal. Limiting government is.
Fact is that investment in AK is at a historic high. Of course the oil companies will "say" it is hurting them yet their ACTIONS speak louder than their words. When you can show me that the total amount of investment has declined we can talk. The total amount of investment in AK is doing the opposite of what you claim. which pretty much debunks your entire post.
facts are to Palin haters what holy water is to vampires. I would suggest that you Read Common sense by Thomas Paine. Government is a necessary evil and needs to be limited yet it is necessary and because it is necessary it needs rev to function. And that revenue must come from someplace. Wealth doesn't grow on trees and government creates no wealth. Reagan doubled government rev during his term. are you saying Reagan wasn't a conservative?
“Of course the oil companies will “say” it is hurting them yet their ACTIONS speak louder than their words.”
You like paying taxes? Do you not understand the direct ecnonomic effect of a tax?
“facts are to Palin haters what holy water is to vampires.”
We don’t hate Palin - calling people “haters” is a Dem tactic - we just don’t support cults of personality.
“I would suggest that you Read Common sense by Thomas Paine. “
I’ve read it. It was a great pamphlet, but not a basis for economics.
” Wealth doesn’t grow on trees and government creates no wealth. Reagan doubled government rev during his term. are you saying Reagan wasn’t a conservative?”
I’m saying that increasing revenue is not a conservative position. Decreasing SPENDING is the conservative position - and Palin supported the bridge to nowhere before it gained national attention.
She supports McCain - that is also not the conservative position. Face it - she’s a Republican politician, not the Conservative Messiah.
In one breath you say calling you all "haters" is a dem tactic and in the same sentence you call me a member of a "CULT". Priceless. hate does that to you makes you not be able to think straight.
Hmmm....the direct economic effect of tax? Yes I understand the impacts and effects. I also understand the direct effects and impacts of anarchy. Which seems to be your aim. With no taxes you have no government which means you have no order and you have anarchy. Government is a necessary evil. But regardless of that it is necessary if you want to have a society. Try reading that "pamphlet" again and this time try not to skip the big words. Man your hate is driving you over the edge. Did McCain shoot your dog or something? Maybe Palin turned you down for a date or something.
So Reagan was never a conservative because he increased/ doubled revenue during his terms and spending went up during his terms. Reagan also increased spending on the military to fight and win the Cold War. So in your hate-filled mind Reagan increasing spending makes him not a conservative.
Just to be clear you are saying one of the greatest conservative presidents in the 20th century was not a conservative because he increased revenue and spending during his terms. He also increased the economy by 1/3rd during his term, created close to 30million jobs, won the cold war, made the USA the only superpower in the world. but He also raised taxes on some things, cut taxes other places, granted amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens among other things. Reagan also campaigned for some RINO's as well as conservatives as he built his support and got his agenda through Congress. So Reagan was a leftist Manchurian candidate in your mind. I see.
This is what people call a double standard. Either Reagan was not a conservative or Palin is a conservative. You can not have it both ways.
so you argument IRT to that the oil companies is that they get the oil for as cheap as they can and the people who are the owners of that oil per the AK state Constitution gets nothing for it. Even as the price of oil skyrockets and the oil companies makes billions on that oil that the people own those owners should never ever have any more say in how there possessions are priced. I see. So if you own a mine and the price of steel triples and your contract to the steel companies comes up for renewal you will simply continue to charge the steel companies the same price for your ore? yeah I'm sure you would. Here is a tip if that is true, do not ever go into business. They will rob you blind. Kind of like what the oil companies were doing to the people of AK before Palin.
As far as Palin being a Messiah the only people that believe that are you Palin haters. The majority of her supporters support her for the simple reason that she exposes the ideas we hold dear. Like limited government, federalism, strong military.
We also understand that to "win" on the political battlefield you need a commanding general that can get that message out, that can draw supporters en mass to a freaking desert in the middle of nowhere. That motivates her troops to get out the vote, knock on doors, pick up the phone, send in money. That has the political instincts to follow the correct path. That is strong and clear in her convictions.
Some of those convictions we may not agree with but the good outweighs the bad with Palin on the order of 90/10. and we are enough of realists to understand that if you are looking for someone with 100% of your core beliefs to lead you you will be waiting forever.
Try to get rid of the hate. It will only burn you up.
“In one breath you say calling you all “haters” is a dem tactic and in the same sentence you call me a member of a “CULT”. Priceless. hate does that to you makes you not be able to think straight.”
You are exhibiting cultish behavior by lashing out at anyone who questions your leaders bona fides. It’s just like the rabid Bush defenders.
“Yes I understand the impacts and effects. I also understand the direct effects and impacts of anarchy. “
WOW, son. You do know that the conservative view of taxes is as a necessary EVIL and that taxation is theft, right?
“Try reading that “pamphlet” again and this time try not to skip the big words.”
Again, son, don’t look to Paine for an economic analysis.
“So in your hate-filled mind Reagan increasing spending makes him not a conservative.”
It makes increasing REVENUE not a conservative proposition - especially since non-defense spending went up too under his term. That was the Congress far more than Reagan.
“He also increased the economy by 1/3rd during his term, created close to 30million jobs, won the cold war, made the USA the only superpower in the world.”
The government doesn’t create jobs, sparky.
“yeah I’m sure you would. Here is a tip if that is true, do not ever go into business”
Business isn’t government.
“Some of those convictions we may not agree with but the good outweighs the bad with Palin on the order of 90/10. “
She isn’t clear enough on her positions on far too many things to even remotely make that statement true. If she agrees with John McCain’s vision for America, she is FAR from the 90% conservative you paint.
“Try to get rid of the hate. It will only burn you up.”
Try to see politicians for what they actually do in office, sonny.
I will give you the point that "government doesn't create jobs" however they do set up the conditions in which the economy is able to create or destroy jobs. And like it or not government is PART of the economy. And for that economy to function government is a necessary evil which must be funded by revenue which since government creates no wealth has to come from the private sector in the form of taxes or tariffs. Call it the price of doing business if your mind isn't able to understand these complex ideas.....check out what makes up the formula for GDP....
I see your hate doesn't just stop at Palin your a Bush hater also. At least you are an equal oppurtunity hater. The hate is strong in this one....
All taxes are theft? that's funny right there. You just called every founding father a thief. Taxes above and beyond those needed to fund the core responsibilities and duties of the government are theft. Those directed to the limited enumerated powers of the government as stated by the Constitution of the USA are not "theft". they are the price that citizens are required to pay to ensure a functioning and secure society and civilization. They are in other words a necessary evil so that humans can function in a group without anarchy and the law of the jungle ruling.
The concept of all taxes as theft while it may be an easy understood rallying cry for those to foam at the mouth over. Misses the bigger picture of a constitutional government. At this point all additional taxes that the federal government raises is theft because they have over-stepped their constitutional mandate.
I suppose you are going to argue that taxes raised by government for such things as military, police and fire service are "theft." That's like saying the electric companies are thieves when they charge you for electric service.
Look for Paine for economics? What the hell are you talking about. Paine's economics if he even has any is only as far as the funding of the necessary evil that is government.
You want to outlaw all taxes. I want to see that "economy" An "economy' where there is no taxes and no revenue for a government will consist of lawless gangs taking whatever they want. In short without taxes or a means to fund a government there will be no economy since there will not be the means needed to have a society or civilization. Wait that might be too hard for your mind to understand
Now I'm all for reducing taxes, reducing the unconstitutional mandates and functions of the government, reducing the size of the government, the tax burden on citizens, the progressive tax code etc. but doing away with all taxes? nope I like civilization too much
Without government you would have no business. What part of that truth do you not understand or can not comprehend?
She is perfectly clear on her positions. She has stated her positions has governed under her positions and campaigned under her positions. Your lack of knowledge on Palin does not mean she doesn't have clear defined positions. It just means you are too stupid/lazy to know them.
As far a politicians go. All of them are human and as such all are fallen. I support ideas not politicians. Palin campaigns on the ideas I support. Limited government, 10th amendment, strong 2nd amendment, pro-life, lower taxes, strong military, federalism, smaller government. If another national politician campaigns on those ideas as well as has governed on them I would support that person also.
My support is not based on looks, connections, how well one speaks, what one is wearing, if they are fat, if they are married, single, have children etc. It is based on character and core beliefs and issues.
Try to get rid of your hate and see the issues involved instead of your hate-filled fantasies.
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