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Vitamin B3 beats Big Pharma's Zetia cholesterol drug
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Posted on 03/30/2010 8:24:19 AM PDT by Scythian

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To: Yossarian
This post is B.S. opinion wrapped in a news headline.

In a lot of cases, I argue on your side. But in this case, you're incorrect. I don't have the references here, but the evidence was overwhelming in a CE conference I did two years ago that high dose niacin is the ONLY medication to actually reduce plaque in the arteries. I'll try to find the references.

21 posted on 03/30/2010 8:52:42 AM PDT by jammer
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To: traderrob6

I had my cholesterol measured at 240 and started taking fish oil, plant sterols, and 500-1000 mg of niacin daily. All available over the counter for maybe $30/month total.

Lowered my cholesterol to 170 in 3 months.

Love the flush!


22 posted on 03/30/2010 8:53:44 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: traderrob6

I do not want to get into the argument about statins: poison or not poisons. However, this study looked at something we should expect with an FDA process for approval in the future (maybe). Why do I say maybe? The FDA looks at classes of drugs. Now if every antihypertensive required proof of extending life in hypertensive patients, the approval process would stretch out to years, perhaps even decades. If every anti cholesterol medication relied on artery thickness the same would occur. Therefore they use “surrogate markers.” The surrogate marker for antihypertensives is lowering the BP, the surrogate marker for anti cholesterol drugs is the cholesterol level. For those who believe statins are evil and that all medications are evil, I have no response and don’t want to argue about it. Accusations are easy to make but it is impossible to prove a negative so it is almost impossible to defend against an accusation. The burden of proof rests on the person making the accusations. They have their opinions and they must be respected but unless proven, they must be taken with a grain of salt. I do not know this literature as I was an Oncologist but all of you can go to Pub Med which is the library of the NIH (I think). Whoever runs it, NIH or some other Government entity) allows anyone to type in a drug name and references pop up. If you are one who believes all medical research is “fixed” your position must be respected. For others, Pub Med is a good point to start if you want to understand diseases and drugs. In addition Goodman and Gilman is an excellent pharmacology reference. Although retired, I buy it for my Kindle. I am sure you can go to any hospital library and they will help you. You do not need to be on-staff.


23 posted on 03/30/2010 8:54:51 AM PDT by AZFolks (uet)
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To: Yossarian

A really smart thing to do would be to review the actual study and critique the design for it’s flaws before you blast the study as BS.


24 posted on 03/30/2010 8:54:58 AM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.com)
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To: Scythian

Niacin has its own side effects, so it should be monitored with blood tests like other cholesterol drugs.


25 posted on 03/30/2010 8:56:28 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Yossarian
BTW, weren't you the one posting about being on your deathbed from "Morgellons"? Yes, and I'm alive and well and doing fine thanks to Natural Supplements, I'm on of the few that has been able to walk away from it.
26 posted on 03/30/2010 8:57:13 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Zetia does work as a lipids improver but it does not reduce calcium buildup which is what they first hoped

that is what started all this Zetia bashing


27 posted on 03/30/2010 8:58:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (Greetings Comrade!)
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To: Scythian

Niacin does not work as good as Statins btw...I know this because I tried.

Pravachol is very good to me,...and cheap..20/month


28 posted on 03/30/2010 9:00:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (Greetings Comrade!)
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To: Moonman62

By the way, I bought a great fish oil to, with the highest DHA ratio, all tested for heavy metals, loving it ...

http://www.xtend-life.com/product/Omega_3_DHA_Fish_Oil.aspx

View the label, also, Magnesium will reduce plaque buildup along with L-Arginine, but don’t take L-Arginine if you have had a heart attack or stroke ...


29 posted on 03/30/2010 9:01:19 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


30 posted on 03/30/2010 9:01:34 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: glorgau

Mine's never been above borderline bad (maybe 212 to 220), but three years ago the doc suggested I take a prescription; instead I just started taking an underdosage - only one tab a day, versus the 4 to 6 recommened - and at the next annual I was about 202......he told me "just continue what you're doing".

31 posted on 03/30/2010 9:03:09 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: Pessimist

my psoriasis is cured....no messy creams, oiontments or jels....the answer is UVB narrow band...have your doc write you a script, and buy a light box ( from 800 to 4000, depending on the type you get ) 6 weeks, every other day, 4 weeks at twice a week, and it will be gone...maintenance of about 1 time a week and eventurally you will not even need it much


32 posted on 03/30/2010 9:06:36 AM PDT by joe fonebone (They will get my Fishing Rod when they pry it from my cold dead fingers)
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To: Scythian

What’s the Government recommended Cholesterol level suppose to be this week? They keep changing it...pretty soon most everyone will be requested (Healthscare mandated?) to take a statin.


33 posted on 03/30/2010 9:09:38 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: traderrob6
"Make sure you take B3 as actual NIACIN and not the “non-flush” types as they are worthless.'

That's odd, because I took Whole Foods Non-flush Niacin 500mg, and credit it for lowering my Cholestrol from 220 to 180.

34 posted on 03/30/2010 9:12:13 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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To: CJinVA

ARE you saying they cured or stopped PADS?

I believe I’ve got PADS myself.


35 posted on 03/30/2010 9:15:13 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER ( EPA will rule your life)
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To: Scythian
It's interesting that your article fails to mention that this study was supported by another evil drug company called Abbott Labs, and that they weren't comparing Merck's Zetia to OTC niacin but to Abbot's proprietary formulation of niacin called Niaspan.

This study is not an indictment of other cholesterol lowering drugs like Lipitor and Crestor that stop cholesterol production in the liver. These two drugs have a long and solid track record of saving lives.

The lead investigator of the study said the study was concluded early because the results were clear and there was no need continue subjecting the Zetia patients to something that wasn't working. Mindlessly bashing the pharmaceutical industry should be left to the mindless.

If you are on a niacin therapy, you better be getting your liver enzymes checked regularly.

36 posted on 03/30/2010 9:23:24 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: gitmogrunt

I take 2000 mg CVS flush free niacin daily. I have been for about a year. At first my cholesterol went down, now I am not so sure.


37 posted on 03/30/2010 9:43:06 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

Fish oil is better than niacin in my opinion, but you need to get a good, heavy metal tested fish oil.


38 posted on 03/30/2010 9:48:58 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: joe fonebone

I used to do that, and it did help. But it never completely went away.

It does get much better in the summer though.


39 posted on 03/30/2010 9:50:11 AM PDT by Pessimist (u)
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To: woodbutcher1963

bookmark for later


40 posted on 03/30/2010 9:51:25 AM PDT by madmomma
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