2) Teenagers often do not do what they are told.
3) Rape is a crime of violence.
4) Teenage girl drunk or not should not have been raped.
There are other FReepers on this thread who took your post to mean what I did... so perhaps it's in your phrasing.
There are other FReepers on this thread who took your post to mean what I did... so perhaps it's in your phrasing.
Well, to make it clear, I don't say that women deserve to be raped. I never have. But, I do advocate that women don't put themselves in positions where that can happen and thus, advocate practicing preventative measures to reduce the liklihood of it.
And -- these days -- fathers (and mothers, of course) should impress it "so greatly" upon their daughters, that it's "absolutely clear" to them that if they do this (get that drunk that they don't even know that they're being stripped naked by some guys) that they are putting themselves in grave, grave danger, indeed.
That should be hammered home, to the point where they realize that it's almost a "guaranteed" -- "cause and effect" for this to happen exactly that way (i.e., getting raped) -- which is saying nothing about "someone deserving it" -- but rather, is teaching them how to be "smart" in life's journeys...
And as a comment on rape being a crime of violence, I would say in this case with four teenage boys, that it was less a crime of violence, and more a result of them being horny teenagers, having little respect for girls (probably from their upbringing), them taking advantage of "an opportunity" that presented itself, and then a function of the society's message of sexualizing almost everything, which I'm sure they're well "imprinted" on by now.
And again, this description has nothing to do with who deserves it, who is doing a crime -- but simply an explanation which recognizes the "reality" of the society that we're in (worldwide, it seems, or at least Western society, anyway) -- and how to "stay safe" and not have bad things happen to you (if one is a girl and has "choices" in which she can minimize something like this happening or put herself in grave danger of this kind of thing happening).
The law/legal system takes care of things (or is theoretically supposed to) "after the fact" -- while teaching and impressing on young girls about these things actually takes care of things "before the fact" and can prevent it from ever happening in the first place.
As a father of a girl, I'm for "taking care of things before the fact" -- than dealing with such a problem "after the fact"...