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U.S. Standard of Living Unsustainable Without Drastic Action, Former Top Govt. Accountant Says
Yahoo News -- Tech Ticker ^ | 03/31/10 | Heesun Wee

Posted on 03/31/2010 1:36:13 PM PDT by AtlasStalled

A longtime budget hawk and currently CEO of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, David Walker says America's growing long-term debt is dangerously close to passing a "tipping point" that could trigger soaring interest rates and a plummeting dollar. In a worst case scenario, that could trigger a "global depression," he says, warning: "Nobody's going to bail out America."

With the U.S. facing $50 trillion in unfunded liabilities and around $62 trillion in total long-term debt, what worries Walker most is what happens after the recession dissipates, as detailed here. "I'm less concerned with the short-term deficits than I am the fact that we're not doing anything about those structural deficits that people used to call long-term," says Walker, former U.S. Comptroller General and head of the Government Accountability Office. "But the long-term is here."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; davidwalker; nationalsuicide
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1 posted on 03/31/2010 1:36:13 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

DUH???! No kidding...coulda seen this coming.


2 posted on 03/31/2010 1:39:13 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: AtlasStalled
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3 posted on 03/31/2010 1:40:02 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: AtlasStalled

Democrats have been criticizing our standard of living for decades. Why is it a surprise that when they achieve total power they do everything in their power to crank it down. They don’t even deny it really. They just don’t talk about it but it is plain as day that is the consequence of ALL of their policies.


4 posted on 03/31/2010 1:40:11 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Touch Not the Cat

This picture is a classic.


5 posted on 03/31/2010 1:40:42 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Our “standard of living” is just fine,
providing we pay for what we buy (on an individual basis).


6 posted on 03/31/2010 1:41:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Barry wins!

Move along serfs.


7 posted on 03/31/2010 1:41:24 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: AtlasStalled
In a worst case scenario, that could trigger a "global depression," he says, warning: "Nobody's going to bail out America."

That's a best-case scenario. The worst-case scenario is a violent and tragic civil war that makes the first one look like a mere football game. I pray daily for my country.

8 posted on 03/31/2010 1:41:39 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: AtlasStalled
sounds like the perfect time to add ANOTHER entitlement program!
9 posted on 03/31/2010 1:41:50 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: AtlasStalled
Wasn't this King Obama redistribution all about, lowering our standard of living. His kingdom relies on reducing us to a slave with him and his corrupt communists party stealing the wealth.
10 posted on 03/31/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: DManA
Democrats have been criticizing our standard of living for decades. Why is it a surprise that when they achieve total power they do everything in their power to crank it down.

They do this and yet get a free pass from the voters.

It amazes me how many people are too lazy to research and read the real news and facts enough to make a really informed decision and thus let these Communists get away with destroying our country.

11 posted on 03/31/2010 1:43:03 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: AtlasStalled

I like David Walker and have kept up with him for several years.

The story he’s telling is the same one he’s been telling the entire time including his time as Comptroller General.

It’s a shame he left the government, but I’m sure he ticked off A LOT of politicians with his dire warnings...that they all, apparently, completely ignored.


12 posted on 03/31/2010 1:44:03 PM PDT by moovova (More coffee please...make it a double.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Walker did see this coming. He’s been going on for years about unsustainability and is probably one of Clinton’s only stellar appointees.


13 posted on 03/31/2010 1:44:37 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: AtlasStalled

Everyone should prepare themselves for future poverty. Make sure that everyone in your family is carefully saving money.


14 posted on 03/31/2010 1:45:31 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: DManA

The other thing they don’t talk about is when things get really bad, the poor will get hit extremely hard. When this happens, they will be looking things in all of our neighborhoods......not just the hood. Best get prepared for this.


15 posted on 03/31/2010 1:45:37 PM PDT by RC2 (Keep ACORN investigations going.)
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To: Norman Bates

thanks for the clarification.


16 posted on 03/31/2010 1:46:04 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: AtlasStalled

I know what will help! We need an order from the EPA declaring CO2 to be a dangerous pollutant.

That should fix everything...


17 posted on 03/31/2010 1:46:42 PM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: AtlasStalled
CEO of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation

Peter paid Peter? WOW, and how did Peter, who is paying Peter ever figure this out all by himself. Looks like too many on the wagon eehhh, Peter.

18 posted on 03/31/2010 1:47:12 PM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: Tarpon

Robbing from Peter to pay Paul. That will always have Pauls support.


19 posted on 03/31/2010 1:49:39 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: AtlasStalled
I would translate that to say that the democrat economic model is unsustainable.
20 posted on 03/31/2010 1:49:46 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: AtlasStalled
Thanks for putting us here .gov !

. . behind every blade of grass. "

21 posted on 03/31/2010 1:49:58 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

LOL


22 posted on 03/31/2010 1:50:47 PM PDT by delapaz
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To: AtlasStalled

“Now, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about, Joe? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’ The answer is yes, that’s what I’m telling you.”

~~ Slow Joe Biden


23 posted on 03/31/2010 1:51:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: moovova

We ignored and made up excuses to mitigate those warning signs too when we were in power. I saw it right her at free republic even. When we are back in power tomorrow, we need to be prepared to stand on the platform that we’re building today and a big plank in that platform is fiscal conservatism. No more excuses. Balance the budget.


24 posted on 03/31/2010 1:52:15 PM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: moovova
I’m sure he ticked off A LOT of politicians with his dire warnings...that they all, apparently, completely ignored.

Yet if he told these same politicians that the trace gas CO2 increasing from 0.03% to 0.04% of the atmosphere will cause the sky to fall, they would be all over it.

25 posted on 03/31/2010 1:53:01 PM PDT by Reeses (All is vanity)
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To: OldMissileer
It amazes me how many people are too lazy to research and read the real news and facts enough to make a really informed decision and thus let these Communists get away with destroying our country.

Doesn't surprise me. Before King Obama was elected I felt 2/3 of Americans were brain dead. Result of a liberal corrupt educational system. Now we still see at least 1/3 still have not learned anything and millions of others were just lazy and bought off. Next we can add to the mix the illegals. America is in deep trouble.

26 posted on 03/31/2010 1:53:34 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: AtlasStalled

I just watched a bunch of people on Fox Business paint a rosy picture of the future! So, this can’t be true! ;)


27 posted on 03/31/2010 1:53:57 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Soothesayer
Make sure that everyone in your family is carefully saving money.

I don't know. The best strategy would depend on the nature of the melt down. To be sure, in a 1930's U.S. style depression, money would come in handy. But if there is run away inflation as occurred in Germany, and seems likely to occur here, owning things would be better than having money. In that situation land, guns and tools will go further.

28 posted on 03/31/2010 1:54:40 PM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Just a thought. They may know this is not sustainable, but be confident they can blame it on Republicans, so ultimately they will say, “We TRIED to help you, but the Republicans ruined the economy, so there you go! But, it’s ok, we’ll fix it for you. We just have to have a lot more control over your lives!” Or something like that.


29 posted on 03/31/2010 1:55:37 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: AtlasStalled

They say people vote their pocketbook, so a real crash would most certainly be the end of the current reign of terror in Washington. Also, hard times seem to improve character; it’s where the Greatest Generation came from. Maybe it’s just what we need.


30 posted on 03/31/2010 1:56:19 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: OldMissileer

It amazes me how many Americans abandoned their children to socialist schools (public education, particularly in urban areas and universities/colleges) and television programs/movies because they were too busy making money to teach their children the principles and responsibiities of a free society.


31 posted on 03/31/2010 1:57:40 PM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: Parley Baer
Robbing from Peter to pay Paul. That will always have Pauls support.

And unfortunately the "Pauls" outnumber the "Peters" among American voters these days.

32 posted on 03/31/2010 1:58:13 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: AtlasStalled

A good start would be to stop bringing in 1.2 million poor and uneducated legal immigrants every year.


33 posted on 03/31/2010 1:59:05 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DManA
About four years ago, in the middle of Bush's second term, I was listening to our local radio station and the noon news came on. It was from NPR. The announcer said, "Today, the stock market hit a record 15000 points, DESPITE THE FALTERING ECONOMY"!

I stopped and looked and all around me, I saw people who looked pretty happy and pretty darn prosperous! They were driving their SUV's into Starbucks to get a latte, probably on their way to a meeting with their granite guy or to the vet to get shots for their new pedigreed puppy!

We enjoyed the highest standard of living any country has ever seen. All a person had to do to make their way was work hard! But the Dems would would never admit that things were good in our country. They were determined to demonize the very prosperity that made this country great.

Now, I wonder how many thirty-somethings look back and wonder what happened to the "good-ol-days"! You know, the ones we enjoyed just three short years ago!

34 posted on 03/31/2010 1:59:11 PM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it's ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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To: AtlasStalled

If you look it up, the debt per person run up by the various levels of government in the USA is far higher than the average individual’s debt. That means that it is mostly not the standard of living we enjoy, but the spending of the government which is the larger part of the problem.

In my case, as I am debt-free, all my share of total debt is equivalent to my share of government debt.

If all this debt were to be liquidated by a big inflationary crash, the debtors come out ahead. The creditors (like China) would not be very happy, but that’s the way the almond-cookie crumbles.

Of course, the chaos would hurt everyone. My savings would probably be wiped out, and as I am retired, I would be left selling pencils on the sidewalk.


35 posted on 03/31/2010 2:02:23 PM PDT by docbnj
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Walker lists four key problems which must be addressed:
Impose tough budget limits
Reform Social Security
Cut health-care costs
Reform the U.S. tax system

Take them one at a time. No one is imposing tough budget limits. When Bush tried very modestly to try to reform Social Security, he was demonized by the Democrats: scoffed at, and called stupid.

The new Health Bill will raise health costs. The claim that it will cut costs is a joke. Check the predictions of costs when Medicare came in: the predictions were way short of the actually expenses (by afcator of 10!!). Same with the Bush drug program, which also has cost much more than all the estimates, including that by the famous CBO. The Massachusetts health program is costing over forty times the estimate. We see a pattern here: government gives a guaranteed benefit, and the recipients spend it wastefully and exravagantly, just as one would expect, when they are enjoying other people’s money.

Reform US tax system? No, the Obama administration is allowing the Bush cust to lapse, which raises taxes severely at all levels. In fact, the increase is worst for the lowest bracket. Check the numbers! All the talk about the Bush cuts helping the rich is just a big, fat lie. Now that the Bush breaks are set to lapse, it is people in the lowest bracket who will have the biggest unpleasant surprise.


37 posted on 03/31/2010 2:12:53 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
The announcer said, "Today, the stock market hit a record 15000 points, DESPITE THE FALTERING ECONOMY"!

The DOW peaked at around 14000 in October 2007 (close to the middle of Bush's second term) and began a decline that bottomed at about 6600 in May 3009. The current recession officially began in December 2007.

38 posted on 03/31/2010 2:13:41 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: RC one

“...we need to be prepared to stand on the platform that we’re building today and a big plank in that platform is fiscal conservatism...”

Bingo...and, we’d better be prepared to yell, scream and demonstrate just as vehemently outside the offices of “our” leaders (should they get back into office), if THEY forget the lesson we’ve all had to learn.


39 posted on 03/31/2010 2:14:56 PM PDT by moovova (More coffee please...make it a double.)
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To: Doe Eyes

I hope I’m wrong about May 3009.


40 posted on 03/31/2010 2:15:36 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: docbnj
When Bush tried very modestly to try to reform Social Security, he was demonized by the Democrats: scoffed at, and called stupid.

So the Republicans stopped. When Obama proposed his National Health care, he was demonized by the Republicans: scoffed at, and called stupid, but he did not stop.

Republicans are at their best, on the sidelines, complaining about what the Democrats are doing, instead of actually getting things done.

41 posted on 03/31/2010 2:20:13 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Logical me
...I felt 2/3 of Americans were brain dead...

That is an optimistic view, I'm afraid.

42 posted on 03/31/2010 2:21:25 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: AtlasStalled

I got news for you Hoss. we passed the tipping point a long time ago/ 1-20-09


43 posted on 03/31/2010 2:23:39 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Protect the national defense, but for the remainder, take a scalpel to the budget and cut deep. The trauma of the surgery will kill or cure us. My bet is that it will make the nation well.
44 posted on 03/31/2010 2:47:14 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

Oh boy..the towns are gonna burn! urban renewal. it’s time to take down the Plantation that the Dems have set up.


45 posted on 03/31/2010 2:55:55 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: AtlasStalled


46 posted on 03/31/2010 3:09:05 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: AtlasStalled

Policy makers at all levels of government will cut large percentages of worthless positions (regulators, domestic violence activists, public schools, all)...after the defaults. The forces of sovereign debt crises are the only way to small government again.


47 posted on 03/31/2010 3:09:27 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
The worst-case scenario is a violent and tragic civil war that makes the first one look like a mere football game.

That's the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is it might cause another world war, that makes a horrible civil war pale in comparison.

48 posted on 03/31/2010 3:27:39 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: AtlasStalled
U.S. Standard of Living Unsustainable Without Drastic Action, Former Top Govt. Hack says

Great, lets start by eliminating millions or approximation 70 percent of government employee bureaucrats at levels, outside of military.

49 posted on 03/31/2010 3:34:57 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: AtlasStalled
What's ultimately at stake may be nothing short of Americans' faith in government

Is this guy kidding?

Anyone with a brain lost faith in this corrupt, controlling, arrogant government years ago.

50 posted on 03/31/2010 3:37:01 PM PDT by dragnet2
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