[2ndDivisionVet]

Unlike the early 90's, we have the Internet and all news isn't filtered through ABC/CBS/CNN/NBC/PBS and the birdcage liners. The people aren't buying this "Tea Partiers are racist militia" tripe this time around.

[sayuncledave]

I agree. What a load of horsefoodle.

[tallyhoe]

This is like THE APPLE DUMPLING GANG!

[muawiyah]

There’s no evidence whatsoever that the Hutaree are “right wing”.

The criminal charges against them could have been lodged against BIll Ayers (Obama’s friend) and the Weather Underground and not missed a beat.

[Bahbah]

Unlike the early 90's, we have the Internet and all news isn't filtered through ABC/CBS/CNN/NBC/PBS and the birdcage liners. The people aren't buying this "Tea Partiers are racist militia" tripe this time around.

Huge difference. All of the difference in the world. Which is why they are trying to get the authority to shut down the internet in the event of a "national emergency."

[alarm rider]

Very transparent. The left needs a boogy-man. The MSM is useless and should be ignored.

[Marty62]

Hey, Times, Your a waste of trees and you have NO influence anymore. Just more leftie BS.

[lurk]

I’m confused. According to the President’s neighbor Bill Ayers, killing police is a good thing.

[Valpal1]

Not all of the essays are by leftards; this one is quite good.

The Movement’s Sharp Divide

Robert H. Churchill is associate professor of history at the University of Hartford. He is the author of “Shaking Their Guns in the Tyrant’s Face: Libertarian Political Violence and the Origins of the Militia Movement.”

In the mid 1990s hundreds of militia groups formed across the nation in response to the state-sponsored political violence on display at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

The movement was from its earliest days divided between two wings. Constitutional militias emphasized public meetings and membership open to all races and faiths. Their members were motivated by a fear of increasing state violence directed at gun owners, and they were primarily libertarian in their politics.

The constitutional militias took significant pains to free themselves from entanglement with the White Supremacist right. A smaller wing of the movement was more millenarian in its world view. Militias in this wing tended to organize underground cells. Many were sectarian in their composition, and there was a greater tolerance for the presence of avowed white supremacists in their ranks.

read the rest at the link in the OP

[ml/nj]

The people aren't buying this "Tea Partiers are racist militia" tripe this time around.

There's still a lot of folks out there who think the Times & Co. are reliable.

ML/NJ

[redgolum]

Many are.

Most people still follow what ever the evening news tells them. And when you add to that the anti Christian/conservative themes on TV (NCIS Los Angelas last night for instance), it becomes part of the culture.

No German in 1920 thought that the concentration camps would happen at first either, but they mainly followed along.

[hennie pennie]

*ping*

[Viking2002]

Isolated groups of rural, trailer park militias are the only thing these Maxwell Smart wannabes seem to want to go after - low-hanging fruit. Nobody is impressed anymore when they send in half a battalion of government cops to take down and handful of loosely-wrapped survivalists. And nobody outside of Manhattan, Berkeley, and the Fourth Estate ruling elites gives the 'extreme right-wing militia threat' boogeyman one ounce of serious consideration. It's the millions and millions of law-abiding, tax-paying, leave-me-the-hell-alone, ordinary citizens who they're going to push too far. Let them try to muster the resources to put a lockdown on a good-sized town, or even an entire county. Hussein would have to suspend the Posse Comitatus Act to try and contain the ensuing uproar, because there wouldn't be enough civilian law enforcement - on any level - to spread around that thinly. He's pretty much kicked the dog one time too many as it is. And, as you said, this is an age that isn't solely reliant on the alphabet networks and dead tree publications to get info on current affairs. Kinda makes you wonder: if it really came down to shit-or-get-off-the-pot time in this country, what percentage of municipal, county, and state personnel would actually follow his dictates after a declaration of martial law? For that matter, to what degree would he get the compliance of the various branches of the military if he did suspend Posse Comitatus? Things that make ya go 'hmmmmm'.......

[windsorknot]

NYT. No need to read.

[Prospero]

Some basic political concepts might explain the thinking behind this nasty strategy, aside from Manhattan Paranoia/Woody Allen Syndrome, etc. Put simply, the White House would be wasting effort, time and money trying to convince those of us who cannot be persuaded, under any circumstances, ever, to support the re-election of this administration or any Member of Congress who belongs to the present majority on Jenkins Hill. Ordinarily, neither is this energy focused on those who likely to support those candidates under any circumstances. Instead, this energy is spent on the persuadable, but that's not what's happening here.

That the nomenklatura feels a need to hustle their own base with these appeals based on their characteristic bigotry might be a tip off about where they are actually losing support.

If McCain is defeated in the AZ GOP Primary... well, let's just say that, in warfare, the ultimate winners adapt to the field as it is and with its changes, not to the field as they would like it to be.

[paul51]

The F.B.I.’s raids against members of a Michigan-based Christian militia over the weekend added to concerns about rising far-right activity across the country.

I'm more concerned about rising government activity

[maine-iac7]

gearing up for Martial Law - no election.

Meanwhile - nothing to see here...and you wont as they are closed communities. Know of any American closed communities?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebg6AFylios

repeated all over this country - even the women are being taught how to slit throats.

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/known-terrorist-training-camps-in-the-u-s-map/

watch the training starting about minute 4

Can you imagine if, back in 1940+, there were Nazi training camps across this country? Better start to speak, live "under the radar."

So our muzzie POtus (POS for short) is going after the Christians and leaving his friends alone - will they be the ‘generals’ of obyummers “Private Security Force” -

[incredulous joe]

Well, let’s face it; it has been overplayed all the way back to the Democratic primaries.

In his own words, “I’m the President.”, which means he was elected despite the issue of race.

Sorry, pal. Deal from another deck.

[ebersole]

Hmmm and how many reports do we see of the FBI taking down members of MS13 (or insert gang of choice with many illegal immigrants)with such feverish reporting?
I’d bet many of us would be safer around these nine Christian right wing extremists than around nine members of a street gang.

[Captain Peter Blood]

Well I want to know about rising Left Wing Extemists and you know they are out there.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

No agency on Earth has the potential for abuse held by government in general. It is wise and neccessary to distrust government and scrutinize every iota of government's activities and interests.

Too many people tend to be lulled into viewing government as a loving parent, government isn't, and can't be.

Governments first concern is for social order, and this is often at odds with individual rights. Freedom is inefficient and messy, tyranny is sleek and efficient, and a lot more attractive to those charged with keeping order.

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"I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air – that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave".

H. L. Mencken

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master."

- George Washington