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Not in Health Reform: "16,500 Armed Bureaucrats"
Whitehouse.gov ^ | April 2, 2010 | by Linda Douglass

Posted on 04/02/2010 7:53:15 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

In the latest example from an ever-growing list of willful distortions, the American people are being warned that because of health care reform, the federal government will hire over 16,000 new IRS agents to enforce the new law.

The major task of IRS employees that will work on implementing this legislation will be to inform the American people of the different aspects of reform that they stand to benefit from and to make sure the historic health care tax relief is administered smoothly and efficiently.

Getting the word out about these tax credits and delivering them smoothly and accurately will require relatively modest investments in technology and staff – even if that is less interesting to some than their fantasies about 16,000 gun-toting bureaucrats.

What’s clear from all of this is that there are people who refuse to have a debate on the merits of health care reform.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: failure; obmacare; socialism


1 posted on 04/02/2010 7:53:15 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So I guess there will no need to fund this?

Congress take note.


2 posted on 04/02/2010 7:55:17 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bwahaha!


3 posted on 04/02/2010 7:55:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Interesting. Wonder what their explanation is for the 600 new 12-gauge shotguns that were just recieved by the IRS?


4 posted on 04/02/2010 7:56:05 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What’s clear from all of this is that there are people who refuse to have a debate on the merits of health care reform

Like Obama, et. al.

5 posted on 04/02/2010 7:56:33 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

...so where to the hundreds of shotguns provided in the legislation come into play? “You WILL take this tax credit. It is for your own good.” (Wonder how much extra the armbands are going to cost?)


6 posted on 04/02/2010 7:56:50 AM PDT by shezza (God bless America, land that I love!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh, I see.....they’re from the government and they are here to help us.


7 posted on 04/02/2010 7:57:03 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

8 posted on 04/02/2010 7:57:29 AM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is one of those libs that will do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE

to avoid admitting that every policy they advocate is implemented with the inherent threat of the use of deadly force.

That means that they approve of KILLING SOMEONE that does not comply.

That’s what it comes down to. Comply or Die.


9 posted on 04/02/2010 7:59:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hiring IRS agents to get the word out about ‘tax credits’?

Yes, Pure BS.

If you have ‘adequate health insurance’ meeting ‘minimum government coverage requirements’ then you take a portion of it as a tax credit by showing that you have it, filling out forms that it meets standards and then calculate how much credit you receive.

BUT IF YOU DON”T HAVE IT OR YOU DON”T HAVE WHAT THEY THE IRS REQUIRES, then you are going to be taxed


10 posted on 04/02/2010 8:00:16 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ha ha ha ha - love your graphic. LOL.


11 posted on 04/02/2010 8:01:04 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
New IRS uniforms:


12 posted on 04/02/2010 8:01:32 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: snowrip

How about the riot shotguns ordered by

THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT?


13 posted on 04/02/2010 8:01:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Healthcare “Reform” is a misnomer. Its use reminds me of all the Commie fronts with “Peace” in their name.


14 posted on 04/02/2010 8:03:49 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am surprised your “BE” meter hasn’t exploded yet.


15 posted on 04/02/2010 8:04:50 AM PDT by gigster
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The IRS will not just take your money, they’ll also head up a propaganda campaign.


16 posted on 04/02/2010 8:05:09 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/1980)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=176997


17 posted on 04/02/2010 8:05:38 AM PDT by csmusaret (Sarah Palin thinks everyday in America is the 4th of July. Obama thinks it is April 15th.)
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To: All

Interesting new site
http://www.billboardsagainstobama.com/


18 posted on 04/02/2010 8:05:59 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: mbarker12474

Their motto-Healthcare will set you free!


19 posted on 04/02/2010 8:07:24 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: mbarker12474

Gott mit Uns!


20 posted on 04/02/2010 8:07:48 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So the WH admits that the IRS will be “administering” the new health care system. It’s a start, a week ago they were denying that the IRS was involved at all.


21 posted on 04/02/2010 8:07:54 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: snowrip

If you fail to buy health insurance????


22 posted on 04/02/2010 8:10:56 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: screaminsunshine

Eventually, an armed agent of the government will show up to haul you off, taking either your liberty or your life.


23 posted on 04/02/2010 8:11:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: DBrow

Gee. They Lie.


24 posted on 04/02/2010 8:12:25 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: MrB

Jail for the uninsured!! Those unpatriotic slackers.


25 posted on 04/02/2010 8:13:24 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When was the last time an IRS employee came to your door to help you understand potential tax credits you may be missing out on?


26 posted on 04/02/2010 8:16:43 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Smoothly and accurately”?.

Come on Ms Douglas. I am a CPA. I deal with the IRS on a weekly basis. What they do to taxpayers is not done “smoothly and accurately”.

What the IRS does is more like the love scene in “Deliverance”.


27 posted on 04/02/2010 8:21:05 AM PDT by texasmountainman (Paging Al Gore, What happened to AGW?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is one of the most deliberately insulting lies ever foisted upon the American people. It is simply another case of Obama spitting in the face of those he hates. Telling us he is going to send out 16,000 new IRS agents to help us cut our taxes is a mockery. Then, making believe they will not be armed compounds the insult.

What happens when Americans decide they don’t want an army of IRS agents invading their homes to “help them out”? Of course, it’s going to get ugly — and then, out will come the IRS guns. Exactly as planned.


28 posted on 04/02/2010 8:21:27 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: screaminsunshine

And if you refuse to go to jail,
you will be killed.


29 posted on 04/02/2010 8:24:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So onxe again, we can’t read, or we ‘mis-interpreted’ it.

I’ll deal with this after Mass, when I get to my computer.


30 posted on 04/02/2010 8:24:31 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Memo from the Ministry of Love.

All Hail Big Brother!! Just feel the love!!!


31 posted on 04/02/2010 8:26:08 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: MrB

I will just pay the fine. By then my income will be so low they owe me money the way things a going.


32 posted on 04/02/2010 8:27:25 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: snowrip

Makes one wonder what they are afraid of.


33 posted on 04/02/2010 8:28:01 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: Dr. Ursus

Gesundheitspflege Macht Frei.


34 posted on 04/02/2010 8:29:16 AM PDT by gdzla
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
... make sure the historic health care tax relief is administered smoothly and efficiently.

They hired 16k armed agents to enforce TAX RELIEF???!!!
Wait a minute, I have to go and take some more democrat pills before I understand this.
I've heard of doublespeak before but these dunces aren't even good at it.

35 posted on 04/02/2010 8:31:54 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: LRS
Interesting. Wonder what their explanation is for the 600 new 12-gauge shotguns that were just recieved by the IRS?

It was the Department of Education that just got those shotguns.

However, that whole article is a classic example of how stupid this current regime thinks we are. We know they are peeing on our legs, and we're tired of them telling us it's just raining!
36 posted on 04/02/2010 8:33:45 AM PDT by rickomatic
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Thanks for your daily demonstrations of outright deceit and being disingenuous.

The fact of that matter is you ant the IRS as a Pay agent you are going hire more agents for that requirement and they will require a whole support mechanism to do their job.

Being factually incorrect or just proclaiming a thing is or is not doesn’t change that a thing exist or will exist.

Besides, we are going to give you gift.

Appropriations - Skip it, we won’t fund it. It will become an albatross and a turkey all at the same time. This is your No Child Left Behind. Unfunded and therefore a promise not delivered.

Severability - I look real hard last night for a clause that I could even come close to interpreting as providing Severability and couldn’t find it.

The State of Virginia has point about your failure to support your own bill and provide life support to it, should any part be found unenforceable, illegal or unconstitutional so that all the parts remain intact.

Your bill is going down in flames when we prevail on the tiniest injury of our liberty and all the other parts will no longer be valid and the whole of the document is then found defective. Buh-Bye.

Constitution - I am only going to list a few:

So let’s start with Amendments:
4th Free from search and seizure without probable cause
5th Due process and deprived of liberty and property
8th cruel and unusual punishment. subjecting him to psych.

Interstate Commerce Clause - Insurance has been regulated by the states and you are taking this away and creating a whole new bureaucracy to support a Federaly centralized policy and support mechanism. FAIL!

You are demanding that a private citizen, who currently not doing business with an insurance company, enter into contract with a private company. Not only illegal and part of takings clause, but just plain stupid. FAIL, you should have made it a tax and you would have a better chance of prevailing.

No one is constitutionally required to do business with anyone, a corporation or render service to another on some pro forma basis that you decide.

Doctors and I know a few, will stop taking Medicare patients since you and the Congress decided to cut their reimbursements by 21% effective now.

Who in your utopia gets the haircut on this one? The nurse who assists the doctor? The drug suppliers? The electric company? The guy that makes computers or software so doctors can run a business?

How about the phone company who provides access to the Internet? The doctor is required to submit his requests for payment as well as patient history and the government forces them to use an FTP site for this. Oh and by the way, it’s lame the way you do it.

How about the guy that makes the software that interfaces to your system, that doctors submit their requests for payment? Shouldn’t he be required to lower his costs, for the good of everyone?

Finally, in your utopia, who do choose to go on welfare when they can no longer afford their mortgage or rent?

Who moves to a smaller house in a less desireable part of town because you demand they deliver the same amount of service as before?

The nurse, the EMT, the Doctor, the drug manufacturer, the people at the electric company or the people at the phone company?

See you in court, you jester and see you at the House Appropriations comittees.

Happy Easter?


37 posted on 04/02/2010 8:39:56 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“to inform the American people of the different aspects of reform”

It’s the same old “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you”. Aside from firefighters and cops, has that EVER been true? EVER?


38 posted on 04/02/2010 8:40:21 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
16,500 jake booted thugs are going to just answer questions... yeah right... and the irs just purchased 800 new Remington 12 gauge pumps... just for “informational purposes”.

LLS

39 posted on 04/02/2010 8:41:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Spok

Ma’am (Connote it any way you want.) I doubt you’ll get the usual passover this time. Still, be giddy, though, ma’am


40 posted on 04/02/2010 8:43:49 AM PDT by yorkie01
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Everyone needs to understand that they are debunking the actual 16,000 new IRS agents, only that all 16,000 will be armed.

Please note the double speak and read the words and not the idea they are attempting to present.


41 posted on 04/02/2010 8:51:51 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: rickomatic
It was the Department of Education that just got those shotguns.

The Dept. of Ed. only ordered about 27.

The IRS had another concurrent order for a much larger quantity.

42 posted on 04/02/2010 9:01:15 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: rickomatic
Why does the Department of Education need shotguns? Or any guns, for that matter?

Not doubting you, but what's the source for the story?
thanks.

43 posted on 04/02/2010 9:30:23 AM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Welcome to the Second American Revolution)
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