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To: Charlespg

> This is just talk,the Russians did nothing after beslen
> when they should have turned a few city’s in Chechnya
> into an another Nagasaki

Believe me, the Russians are not all talk. They hunted down and killed every single one of the terrorists that they suspected were even remotely connected with the Beslan elementary school massacre.

The Spetznaz even wiped out an entire family; men, women, children, dogs, cats. Amnesty International filed charges at the Hague against the Russian officer in command of the operation, and he was orderd by the International Court of Justice to answer charges. He flatly refused and sent a one-word response. “We heard a shot.”

It would be stupid for the Russians to detonate nuclear weapons so close to home as Chechnya, that would literally backfire on them with the fallout.

However, there wasn’t much left of Chechnya when they were done with it, anyway. They conducted a scorched earth, one-sided war in which they ground Chechnya into rubble without so much as a whimper of opprobrium from the Euroweenie or American press.

I was in Russia in January of 2002. The Americans were bombing Afghanistan. They were even using 500 lb “inert bombs”, just big blocks of cement, so they wouldn’t cause any collateral damage. But on the European TV stations, all the newsies were wringing their hands about the barbaric Americans and the savagery being wrought upon poor little Afganistan.

Then I watched an episode of a Russian documentary about the war in Chechny on one of the local Russian TV stations. In this particular segment, they showed the utter destruction of a city.

First, the city was surrounded by tanks, artillery, and infantry. Then it was leafleted by air. Everybody was given 48 hours to report for relocation to refugee camps. All were required to go through checkpoint processing. Checkpoint evaders would be shot on sight.

After the 48 hours were up, the Russian forces commenced with indiscriminate aerial bombing and artillery fire. Everything was destroyed. Factories, apartment buildings, schools, hospitals, churches, mosques, everything. Then came the tanks and infantry for door-to-door mop-up, followed by giant armored earth moving equipment to bulldoze everything to rubble.

Then they were off to the next town.

Oh, there was no “Marshall Plan” for Chechnya, either.

Not one word from the bedwetters in Denmark and Holland about the barbaric savagery taking place just a few hundred miles away from them.

No, the Russians are not all talk.


13 posted on 04/02/2010 5:30:45 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook; Charlespg
> sent a one-word response. “We heard a shot.”

Sent a one sentence response ...

14 posted on 04/02/2010 5:34:31 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook
Amnesty International filed charges at the Hague against the Russian officer in command of the operation, and he was orderd by the International Court of Justice to answer charges. He flatly refused and sent a one-word response. “We heard a shot.”

Yup, the Russian take on counter-terrorism is that their mission is to kill terrorists; taking captives, rescuing hostages or even preventing casualties amongst both civilians and military personnel are "nice to haves, but not essential".

As this video demonstrates.
18 posted on 04/02/2010 6:12:07 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Westbrook

They have worse than Marshall plan for Chechnya. It is all living for Russian taxpayers’ money now.
Before 1990s a muslim Chechen population or ‘natives’ was not involved in any activities other than copulating and collecting food stamps. The reason is because an idea of working is insulting for a Chechen. ‘Chaban’ or shepherd which is a single natural historical occupation other than robbing or collecting food stamps is considered an insulting term there. At the same time due to socialist policy of USSR which is pretty same as democrats’ toward minoroties they had a green light to all the benefits including health care, univercities etc. One day they got an idea they are ‘exploited’ by Russians and started to massmurder their working Christian and Jewish population ‘stealing their Chechen wealth’. Pretty same as US racial riots back to 60s but way more intense. They killed people to take houses, cars, watches to ‘restore justice’.The difference is Chechen muslims are typically more violent than American ghetto population. Another factor is a vast stockpiles of available heavy weapons in post-Cold War Soviet-block where an assault rifles and RPGs were considered as standard school gym equipment to teach children ‘withstand capitalist agresion’.
It turned into a bloody war with federal troops. The First one was lost by the libs in Kremlin withdrawing troops under eurotrash humanitarian criticism giving muzzies de-facto independence. Those mizzies soon recognized they won’t have their food stamps as soon as they exterminated their working Christian population so they started gang wars with each other, deleloped an idea of Pan-Caucasian Islamic Haliphate to take money from Saudi AQ for the project etc. At 1999 they started explosions in Moscow and attacked neighbouring Russian regions to incorporate them into their Islamic state. This time Russians returned back with Second War ruining literally everything there killing almost all known rebel public figures through the last decade.
The problem is now they have their puppet there who is actually a thug by that same food stamps, freee health care and government paid housing. Chechens still sitting on their butts or copulating. There are still a surplus of young men who thinks they are too cool for just food stamps and cheap government housing but don’t see the problem in their unwillingness to study and work but blames working people or ‘infidels’. They have a lot of free time and their brains washed by Wahabi Saudis from AQ at mosques built for Russian money so they are sending their whores to blow things who are seeking to clean their honour from lost virginity. Same ghetto problem Israel has with their muzzies.


20 posted on 04/02/2010 7:18:51 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Westbrook
....there was no “Marshall Plan” for Chechnya...

Actually, there is. In fact Russia has spent billions reconstructing Chechnya. With Putin's blessing the Chechens have even built on Russian soil the largest mosque in Europe.


21 posted on 04/02/2010 8:21:47 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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