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To: Spaulding

“the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government, or the children born within the United States, of ambassadors or other public ministers of foreign nations” are not citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment because they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States)

This is the most important statement of all...this in my opinion should apply to children born to illegal aliens. Mere presence does not follow the intent, their Allegiance is to their own country, not the United States.

It is ridiculous to think that the founders and framers would follow Natural Law like the British did. They wanted allegiance to this new country...they believed men were free and capable of making that choice!

It is fact that during the War of 1812 the British forced American citizens into servitude because of natural law....any colony of Great Britian or born of a colony of Great Britian negated the citizenship of its people (ie, Barak Obama, Sr).....the founders/framers fought a war to break that tie!

My interpretation may sound too simple but when you look at the writings and read the words itself, the Constitution and its intent is simple.....IMHO


55 posted on 04/04/2010 7:24:02 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: panthermom
Great point panthermom. I recall reading that about that, probably in a Treatise on the Law of Citizenship in the U.S. by Prentiss Webster. There is no doubt that we did not adopt English law. Webster gives example after example of why. One of his examples is exactly the case you cite, that the British conscripted native born U.S. citizens because they were children of British citizens or subjects.

His points are virtually all legal rather than philosophical, though the original principles, the “feudal” jus soli and jus sanguinis which corresponded to “legiance” or allegiance in the English law.

The deeply embedded left in our power structure surely has anticipated all this. It is like a chess match where they have made the first move. They have hidden Obama’s past, perhaps creating much of it with the help of Ayres, Jones (both), and others from the radical left who have been plotting for decades. They have thought of all the moves. We can guess that, since only a divorce certificate was located, he may claim his parents weren't married. He may claim a native born citizen as his true father. He could do lots of things, but the “when he knew it will make any legislation hard to pass”, and could make him an impeachment target.

We must take him at his word, that his father was Obama Sr. That is clearly a violation of every supreme court decision involving natural born citizenship since there is a clear path to the founder's acceptance of Vattel. If some judge has the courage (it is getting easier now that Obama's popularity is below 45%), there will be discovery. He will then have to show his hand, reveal his legal moves, if indeed he even chooses to fight removal or impeachment. His ruse has been so successfully executed we don't know what he has hidden. Having been adopted, he may not have chosen to be a citizen at majority, which could raise questions about his citizenship. That could have been the significance in the cauterizing of his passport files. There is some guidance for his successor, initially Biden and then a new election. Since Pelosi has vouched for his eligibility, and either lied or failed to validate her signed assertion, she seems quite an unlikely replacement. But first, the clear violation of an alien father must open the legal door.

56 posted on 04/05/2010 3:37:27 AM PDT by Spaulding
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