Posted on 04/04/2010 3:03:50 PM PDT by Talisker
a) Census admitted it provided block data ("This is an area where some Japanese-ancestry people live")
b) In 1942, Congress passed a war powers act that included a section repealing confidentiality for war purposes
c) Census did provide, in mid-1943 , some specific info on Japanese-ancestry people living in the DC area.
What do you have that is different or beyond that? ("4 days after Pearl Harbor . . . .")
Ditto- also I blacked out all the other census questions with permanent marker. Returned my form in a plain envelope with a regular stamp. They’ll have fun processing that!
Tomorrow (April 5) is the anniversary of Washington’s Veto of the Act concerning the enumeration of the population and the apportionment of Congressional seats.
It was a big deal back then and later Congress decided to simply ignore the principles behind that action.
http://www.thirty-thousand.org/pages/first_veto.htm
One figure commonly thrown about is that for every person counted in the census, the local government receives $1000. The Democrats have long maintained that poor and urban areas are historically undercounted, especially among immigrants, and even more so among illegal immigrants. This is the main reason that the Community-Organizer-in-Chief is pushing the census.
Reapportionment is another reason. Urban cores are losing population and therefore Congressional representation. They are trying to limit their losses. They are even going so far as to claim that inmates of prisons should not be counted as residents of the county where the prison is located (more and more of these are in rural areas), but rather as a part of the community from whence they came, mostly urban ghettos. The grounds for this is that are merely temporarily visiting the prisons where incarcerated and are really homies at heart. Some are there for 900 years, but I guess that's still temporary in their eyes.
Extremely thought-provoking.
Thanks for all your hard work on this.
That’s a very interesting link. Thanks.
Since the ENUMERATION is called out specifically in Article I for the purpose of APPORTIONING THE HOUSE and that there are Supreme Court rulings plus law passed by Congress than make race a part of the APPORTIONMENT PROCESS. Therefore it would be deemed as clearly Constitutional the gathering the requisite data for carrying out the task specifically called for in the Original Document.
I place no value judgment on the above other than to say it seems a logical conclusion. All of the questions on the standard form fit with that purpose EXCEPT QUESTION 11.
But there are only 10 you say. Well, question 11 should be "Is this person a citizen of the United States, eligible to vote in a Federal election?" That is an omission that should go before SCOTUS at some point. I'll save that tirade for later.
I entered "Motorcycle" Well, I like motorcycles.
Thanks for posting. Very informative.
I suspect that if you were from the south and put NASCAR for “race,” that nobody would think you were trying to be a smart @$$.
bttt
2 people
1 male / 1 female
American
I answered question 1- number of people in house , and mailed it. Waiting to see what hassles are coming
I did the same thing....
mark
Not a lot of details on my part. What we do know is enough: census race data was used to wrongly incarcerate not just one, but over one hundred thousand citizens. That’s reason enough for any President to refuse to run a census on any information beyond raw headcount, and for any citizen to refuse to provide any identifying/discriminating information beyond raw headcount.
Very interesting and a big Thank You!
Now, can anyone tell me why they need my age and my birthday? Are they going to be sending me a birthday card?
Also, why would I give them my phone number so they can harrass me?
and I, minus the finger that some suggested would should appear as artwork to indicate ones displeasure at the questions other than how many live at this address.
Thanks for the post.
You may find this interesting. My house received the long form, or community survey, which i decided not to answer because of the 16 pages of intrusive questions. Then followed post cards , then phone calls asking why we hadn’t returned it. Then another long form copy then 2 weeks of bombardment by phone- meaning 5-6 calls daily from different call centers around the US. Leaving messages etc. Finally we got a message that they were sending a rep by. When they came by for the 4th time I spoke to them on the phone and said that I would only answer the equivalent of the short, or enumerative survey. Thats ok, she said, you don’t have to answer anything you don’t feel comfortable with.
Thought we were done until this week when new survey people started coming around. They have been by 3 times arguing with my wife saying that the first survey wasn’t real,it was a scam, that they are the only one going on in my county, and that the county( Dukes, Ma.) has been specially chosen for only a face to face count.
When I called to try to straighten it out the supervisor repeated that they knew nothing about the other survey, that there was no such thing, and that it was a scam. When i directed her to the census’ own website she told me that she was not going to waste any more time talking to me but she was going to mark me down as a refusal, and then they would come over to my house “with a cop” and make me answer the questions.Is that what I wanted? I then asked what did she mean? How was that going to work? She reiterated her threat and I told them that if that was the case that I would be home at five. She did not appear, and when i called to find out why, she stated that she had turned it over to her superior, and that not to worry, but they would be coming over “with the cops” and that “ [I] will give them the answers”
So now what?
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