“The main obstacles are the Ponzi schemes known as Social Security and Medicare. Many Conservatives have had so much taken from us over the 30 or 40 years of our careers to fund this idiocy that we can’t afford to retire without it. How would we allocate the liability for providing this ? “
I say we give them all the money we have and let them invest it or not as they choose. Privatize it except with one caveat, NO MORE REQUIREMENT TO PLAY THE GAME!
Then at least there is a snow balls chance in hell of them getting something as apposes to the basically nothing they are getting now.
“How would we allocate responsibility for the national debt ?”
Standard rules is to sum up all the existing Federal assets per state and assign dept accordingly in share of their value.
“These things require Federal taxes to pay for because they are Federal obligations, and that tax burden dwarfs the tax benefits of moving to one state or another. FDR planned this disaster with malice aforethought, but he planned it well. Short of a slow unwinding of federal powers, or an explosive collapse, we are stuck — an amicable separation is not possible.”
Not really once you assign the dept according to assets and population, so do you you get the transfer of theses “obligations” Most of which are technically unconstitutional and thus technically disregardful, but that doesn’t mean we would.
Thinks like social security and Medicare being in large part legal State obligations would have to be assumed by states at least at first.(We would get rid of and otherwise privative them later)
This web is not as complicated as you think it is, and its a lot more strait forward then not.
Quote THEG, from our sister site:
http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1479537#1479537
I have said for the longest time- going back at least as far as the Clinton plague- that I wished we could divide the nation into
1)- those who want the government to be the supplier of all their wants
and
2)- those in the “leave me the Hell alone!” category.
Unfortunately, the latter require the money, talent, and productivity of the former,
so it can never be.
I do not honestly see a solution for it, peaceful, or otherwise.
Producers, versus parasites.
The election of Øbozo was the ascent of the latter. Aberration? Or trendline?
“I say we give them all the money we have and let them invest it or not as they choose.”
That’s the point. There is no money. There is only the claim against future tax revenues. Had my SS/M contributions gone into my 401k instead for the last 25 years, there’d be over a half million there. If you are saying the Feds should write me a check for that amount and I opt out of SS/M, I’d take that deal in a minute.
I’m not sure what Federal “assets” you are referring to. There are Federally owned lands to the tune of a billion acres filled with natural resources, mostly in the West. And those should be returned to the States, as Utah is attempting to do by using Eminent Domain to seize its lands back from the Fed BLM. Other than that, the Federal Government doesn’t haven much in assets. It only has the legal ability to tax — so the productivity of the people is its real asset.