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This seems incredibly important, but is evidently being under-reported. The Obama administration seems intent on giving up the United States dominance in manned spaceflight despite the article's assertion that, "The new NASA plan has drawn almost unanimous opposition in Congress".

Given NASA's relativley small footprint in the national budget overall, against it's ability over the years to draw generations of young people into career paths involving technology and the sciences, it seems absolutely incredible to me that Congress would let this slip through our fingers and rather draw our country ever further into a third world style backwater.

1 posted on 04/06/2010 4:44:51 PM PDT by onedoug
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Space Program ping....


2 posted on 04/06/2010 4:46:16 PM PDT by onedoug
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For other space news go to: http://www.spacetoday.net
For a list of Private Space Companies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_spaceflight_companies


3 posted on 04/06/2010 4:49:05 PM PDT by KevinDavis (No money for the moon, but money for High Speed Choo Choo's....)
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To: onedoug
This seems incredibly important, but is evidently being under-reported. The Obama administration seems intent on giving up the United States dominance in manned spaceflight despite the article's assertion that, "The new NASA plan has drawn almost unanimous opposition in Congress".

It is not "giving up dominance in human spaceflight" to end a bloated, horrifically expensive program and replace it with something that promises to dramatically reduce the cost of access. If we are "giving up dominance" to the Russians, that happened when the Bush administration decided to end Shuttle this year, back in 2004. Ares/Orion had little prospect of operations until 2017 or later, at a cost of billions per flight. This is one of the few things that the Obama administration has gotten sort of right.

As for Congress, hardly anyone there cares one way or the other. This is just a fight over pork in Huntsville, Houston and the Cape.

4 posted on 04/06/2010 4:54:07 PM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: onedoug

It should be our primary national effort to explore and expand into outerspace. We should have already established our 51st state on the Moon by now. The survival of our human race could depend on establishing a foothold off of our planet. Given what we know of history, it is a certainty that there will be events that will END the human race on this Earth. It’s just a matter of time. We need to have the ability to get away from our planet when it becomes necessary.

Also, just imagine the resources and raw materials that are just waiting on all of those planets and moons within our Solar System that we could utilize. I’m sure there are many of the same valuable resources throughout the Solar System as there are on our planet. Outer space should be the ‘Wild West’ of this, or the next few generations, and we are going to sit on our hands and let someone else beat us to it. I’m sure if China had our space program, don’t think for a second they wouldn’t be doing this.


6 posted on 04/06/2010 5:17:34 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: onedoug
it seems absolutely incredible to me that Congress would let this slip through our fingers and rather draw our country ever further into a third world style backwater

Have you taken a close look at the congressional ruling junta lately?

7 posted on 04/06/2010 5:24:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: onedoug
This is the Obama Regime, rule by decree. It's of a piece with Reconciliation and the Slaughter Rule. The Messiah intends to abandon the manned spaceflight program with no vote from Congress.

This bunch must be thrown out of office as soon as possible.

9 posted on 04/06/2010 5:28:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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We must act NOW - email tonight, call and email tomorrow - this is the last chance we have of stopping this illegal bypassing of Congress by obama to shut down our Space Program

BEYOND shutting down our Space Program, obama had directed NASA to funnel the money to ‘predominantly Muslim countries” to teach and bring Muslims into the technologies of the space program - teach Muslims how to build rockets and rocket fuel. (How many more Irans? the ULTIMATE ‘redistribution of money” - and eventually,, power, if this is allowed.)

Where is the outrage?

Didn’t know this part of the equation? Shame on you. READ.

http://www.thefoxnation.com/international/2010/02/22/obama-asks-nasa-chief-reach-out-muslim-countries?page=2

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/02/obama-orders-nasa-to-work-with-muslim-countries-yes-nasa-and-no-this-isnt-from-the-onion.html

“(NASA) mission will shift from space exploration to Muslim diplomacy, as per the commander-in-chief’s orders.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2010/feb/nasa-focus-muslim-outreach

“Some 7,000 space industry workers will lose their jobs by the time the shuttle program ends, causing the loss of 14,000 public sector jobs and raising the unemployment rate to near 15 percent in Brevard.” (that will actually be about 36,000 out of work)

http://www.floridatoday.com/content/blogs/space/2010/01/boeing-lays-off-36-workers.shtml

and in Houston, even a DEMOCRAT candidate is asking for impeachment:

http://vimeo.com/9235476

Where is the outrage?

Obama, Narcissist in Chief, has the audacity to be going to the Kennedy Space Center on April 15th to tell them all just how wonderful his new policy is.

Where is the outrage?

Where is Congress - CONGRESS is legally charged with making decisions concerning NASA. Obama is by-passing them - illegally.

We MUST - and NOW - email/fax/call Congress and DEMAND they stop this outrage NOW?

(Anyone who doesn’t get outraged NOW and demand congress stop this - is aiding and abetting obama in sending our tax money to his Muslim friends to teach them how to build the mega weapons to use against u s- our children. He is not just about destroying America’s freedoms - he is about the Muslim take over of our country.

Where is the outrage???

NOW - call NOW. email NOW. FAX NOW. Or YOU are aiding and abetting obama.


10 posted on 04/06/2010 5:29:00 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: onedoug
"...In testimony on Capitol Hill, top NASA managers are walking a thin and carefully lawyered line as they prepare a White House-ordered shift to commercial human flights to orbit..."

That'll be useful for the trips to Venus for our bipartisan, genius superiors after the default.


16 posted on 04/06/2010 6:17:07 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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Golly, I feel old. I remember the "Mercury Seven" - Our first astronauts.

My brother was in the space program - we lived in Cocoa Beach in the mid-'60's. Cocoa Beach was a sleepy little e road town with one mote/hotel - the Ramada Inn.

The is where the astronauts stayed when in town.

My mother worked there and I often picked her up from work, waiting at the bar in the lobby if she was late. I often 'ran into' Wally Schirra there. One night, someone who knew I was a portrait artist said: "Hey, do a drawing of Wally." - and then scrounged p a piece of notebook paper and a ball point pen - a RED one. This is the result. ( I gave it to one of my son's a couple years ago - he's one of the Kennedy Space workers that will be out of a job in Sept - after almost 30 years.)

He had the nicest deep auburn hair and a face covered in freckles.

23 posted on 04/11/2010 8:58:33 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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This is a case where obama is flagrantly thumbing his nose at Congress - illegally.

CONGRESS is legally charged with any such decisions on the space program. the president has no legal right to sidestep them.

I hope the Congress hangs tough. The space program takes about .05% of our national budget - and as the article mentions, is a great avenue for our young people to go into the sciences of the industry - and it gives back tenfold i the inventions and advances we enjoy:

http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/

but obama wants that money to go to Muslim youth -
READ, copy/paste and send this information to everyone you know and to everyone at FOX - and Rush AND email Congress and demand they do their duty - not to mention keeping tens of thousands of Americans from being DELIBERATELY and with malice aforethought out of work. (The ultimate redistribution of our wealth.)

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2010/02/nasa-plans-more-outreach-to-muslim-countries.html

NASA plans more outreach to Muslim countries

(per a directive from obama)

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/02/obama-orders-nasa-to-work-with-muslim-countries-yes-nasa-and-no-this-isnt-from-the-onion.html

http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/2010/02/28/obamas-budget-moon-mission-cut-thousands-of-nasa-workers-will-lose-jobs-houston-florida-will-be-hit-hard-with-unemployment-video/

headline:

“Obama calls ‘entrepreneurship summit’ with Muslims”

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c429eac8e6bddb6d430d2b4d28386dd9.551&show_article=1

In addition, a letter from Hillary:

Hillary Clinton
Remarks at the U.S.-Islamic World Forum
Doha, Qatar
February 14, 2010

President Obama and I believe that education and innovation are the currency of this century. That’s why he announced a new era of engagement with Muslim communities to expand educational opportunities, support entrepreneurs, and promote advances in science and technology.

Our goal is to identify excellent ideas and successful projects in Muslim communities and then invest in them, help to scale them up, and to connect innovators and entrepreneurs, so that they can support and enhance each other’s work.

We are creating a Global Technology and Innovation Fund, which we will launch this spring, that will provide hundreds of millions of dollars in capital to small and medium-sized businesses throughout the Middle East, Asia, and Africa . . .

We have to continue to expand and strengthen outreach to students. And that is why we have increased funding for educational exchange programs for Muslim students. NASA, our space program, has partnered with the Arab Youth Venture Foundation in Dubai to give Arab and American engineering students the chance to work together on NASA missions.

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These are illegal acts - NOT the prerogative of the Executive Office under our Separation of Powers - indeed, NASA and the Space Program are legally under the auspices of CONGRESS. The WH has no legal right to by-pass Congress on NASA.

and so the redistribution of money out of OUR pockets kicks into high gear. (and the redistribution of jobs - tens of thousands of Americans will loose their jobs - as the money and jobs are given to Muslims around the world...not to mention the technology to create several more Irans. And then the Caliphate?)

and none dare call them "TRAITORS"?

24 posted on 04/11/2010 9:13:11 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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